Star Delta Conversion: Why Phase Shift?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the phase shift that occurs when converting winding from star to delta or vice versa. The speaker suggests using a phasor diagram to understand the vectorial additions that happen in this type of connection. They also mention a specific example of a transformer and explain how the phase shift and voltage ratio can be calculated using vector additions.
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Why there is a phase shift of 30 degree (positive or negative) if we convert our winding from star to delta or vice versa?
 
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Can you be more specific as to what exactly it is you are talking about?

Are you talking about a small 3-phase generator?

Have you tried a phasor diagram and perform the vectorial additions that happen when you do such wye and delta connections?

Please explain what you have tried and why you think the 30 phase shift shouldn't be there or how much shift you were expecting or something!...need to know where you are coming from.
 
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I tried this on a transformer of 40MVA, 35/10 kV with higher side as delta connected and low voltage side as star connected and it gives a minimum of 30 degree phase shift and my concern is that why do we get a phase shift of minimum 30 degree.
 
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Like I said...all you need to do is vector additions.

For example, say you have delta connection in the primary and your voltages are
VAB=1<0
VBC=1<-120
VCA=1<-240

And you do a wye connection on the secondary and connected
the secondary winding of VCA between a and neutral, that is Van = VCA
the secondary winding of VAB between b and neutral, that is Vbn = VAB
the secondary winding of VBC between c and neutral, that is Vcn = VBC

Now, you turn around and want to measure the line-to-line voltages on the secondary side...what are they?

Vab = Van + Vnb = Van - Vbn = 1.732<150
Vbc = Vbn + Vnc = Vbn - Vcn = 1.732<30
Vca = Vcn + Vna = Vcn - Van = 1.732<-90

So, not only is there a phase shift, but there is a ratio in magnitude for transformers with 1:1 turns...1.732 from delta to wye and 1/1.732 from wye to delta.
 
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thank you
 

Related to Star Delta Conversion: Why Phase Shift?

1. What is Star Delta conversion?

Star Delta conversion is a method used in electrical engineering to convert a three-phase AC power source into a two-phase AC power source. It involves rearranging the connections of the three-phase system in order to obtain a two-phase output.

2. Why is phase shift necessary in Star Delta conversion?

Phase shift is necessary in Star Delta conversion because it allows for the two-phase output to have the same voltage and power as the original three-phase system. This is achieved by shifting the phases of the voltage and current by 30 degrees.

3. How does phase shift affect the power output in Star Delta conversion?

The phase shift in Star Delta conversion does not change the total power output of the system. However, it does change the distribution of power between the two phases. The phase with the higher voltage will have a higher power output compared to the other phase.

4. Are there any drawbacks to using Star Delta conversion?

One potential drawback of using Star Delta conversion is that it requires additional equipment, such as transformers and switches, which can increase the cost and complexity of the system. Additionally, the phase shift can cause imbalances in the system, leading to uneven power distribution.

5. Can Star Delta conversion be used in all three-phase systems?

No, Star Delta conversion can only be used in systems where the load is balanced and the phases are equally spaced. If the load is unbalanced or the phases are not equally spaced, a different method, such as delta-star conversion, would be more suitable.

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