Spring compression to complete a loop (energy)

In summary, the conversation discusses the amount that a spring must be compressed in order for a roller-coaster car to stay on a frictionless loop-the-loop track. The solution involves using conservation of energy to calculate the minimum initial velocity required to complete the loop, which can then be used to solve for the compression of the spring.
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Homework Statement


An 840kg roller-coaster car is launched from a giant spring of constant k=31kN/m into a frictionless loop-the-loop track of radius 6.2m. What is the minimum amount that the spring must be compressed if the car is to stay on the track?


Homework Equations


Wspring=0.5kx^2
Wkinetic = 0.5mv^2
Wpotential = mgh

The Attempt at a Solution



I have an attempt but it is not correct and I would be thankful if someone could tell me why.
0.5kx^2=0.5mv^2=mgh
Thus x=(mgh*2/k)^0.5
x=(840*9.8*12.4*2/31000)^0.5
x=2.57m.
The answer should be 2.87m.
Thankful for any help.
 
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do some calculation using conservation of energy. you will find, minimum initial velocity required to complete a loop of radius R is

v = sqrt(5gR).

so 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2kx^2.

solve.
 
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and Welcome to Physics Forums etothey!
 
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supratim1 said:
do some calculation using conservation of energy. you will find, minimum initial velocity required to complete a loop of radius R is

v = sqrt(5gR).

so 1/2 mv^2 = 1/2kx^2.

solve.

Thank you very much!
 
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you are welcome.
 

Related to Spring compression to complete a loop (energy)

1. How does spring compression help complete a loop?

Spring compression is a process in which a spring is compressed by an external force. This compression stores potential energy in the spring, which can then be released to provide the necessary force to complete a loop. The stored energy is converted into kinetic energy, allowing the object to maintain its circular motion and complete the loop.

2. What factors affect the amount of spring compression needed to complete a loop?

The amount of spring compression needed to complete a loop depends on several factors, including the mass of the object, the initial velocity, and the radius of the loop. A heavier object or a larger loop will require more spring compression to complete the loop, while a higher initial velocity may require less spring compression.

3. Can the spring compression vary during the loop?

Yes, the spring compression can vary throughout the loop depending on the position of the object. As the object moves through the loop, the spring will compress and release as the potential energy is converted into kinetic energy. The amount of compression will be highest at the bottom of the loop and lowest at the top.

4. Can a loop be completed without spring compression?

No, spring compression is necessary to complete a loop. Without the stored potential energy from the spring, the object would not have enough force to maintain its circular motion and complete the loop.

5. How does the spring's spring constant affect the completion of a loop?

The spring constant is a measure of the stiffness of the spring and determines how much potential energy can be stored in the spring. A higher spring constant will result in a greater amount of spring compression and thus more potential energy available to complete the loop.

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