Solving Quantum Mechanics in Space-Time: Effects of General Relativity

In summary, this theorist believes that as we look out in space time we are causing the system to collapse to become a classical system. This is a good question, and here are some speculations on this by a major GR theorist (see, e.g. p.3). However, the chance for this to be correct is unknown.
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I have been wondering what effects a quantum mechanical system would cause in space time.
Pick a general state of the system. This would not generaly be in one of the energy eigenstates -rather, it would be on a superposition of energy states. Now, each one of them would cause a different space time curvature.

But we do not see such thing happening -the space time has one, and only one, curvature. So would that mean as we look out in the space time we are causing the system to collapse to become a classical system?
 
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PAllen said:
This is a good question, and here are some speculations on this by a major GR theorist (see, e.g. p.3):

https://arxiv.org/abs/0812.0240/
Very interesting indeed. What are the chances for what he discusses to be correct?
 
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davidge said:
I have been wondering what effects a quantum mechanical system would cause in space time.
Pick a general state of the system. This would not generaly be in one of the energy eigenstates -rather, it would be on a superposition of energy states. Now, each one of them would cause a different space time curvature.

But we do not see such thing happening -the space time has one, and only one, curvature. So would that mean as we look out in the space time we are causing the system to collapse to become a classical system?

We don't see it happening at the large scales but it could at small scales. This is the basis of Penrose's arguments for Orchestrated Reduction Collapse (Orch-OR) where gravity is the cause of decoherence.

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But we do not see such thing happening -the space time has one, and only one, curvature.

We should question this statement since there is no observational proof of this.
 
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Before asking this question about GR, ask the question of a macroscopic open system in normal quantum mechanics. Namely, why don't we see sqrt(2)/2 table over here and sqrt(2)/2 of the table on the other side of the room?

I would say the modern answer to that still open puzzle is environmentally selected decoherence, namely that the table collapses to a definite position bc of its interaction with the environment. Likewise you could imagine that the stress energy tensor is some sort of expectation value of many quantum objects that have all collapsed to some classical pointer state(s). However, the exact details and consistency of that sort of process in the gravitational context are simply not known in detail.
 
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Related to Solving Quantum Mechanics in Space-Time: Effects of General Relativity

1. What is the relationship between quantum mechanics and general relativity?

Quantum mechanics and general relativity are two fundamental theories of physics that describe the behavior of matter and energy at different scales. Quantum mechanics explains the behavior of particles at the subatomic level, while general relativity explains the behavior of matter and energy on a large scale, such as the movement of planets and galaxies. However, when dealing with extreme conditions, such as in black holes or the early universe, both theories are needed to fully understand the behavior of matter and energy.

2. How does general relativity affect quantum mechanics in space-time?

In general relativity, space and time are not considered separate entities, but rather are intertwined and form a four-dimensional space-time fabric. This means that the effects of gravity, which is described by general relativity, can influence the behavior of particles at the quantum level. This is known as quantum gravity and is an area of ongoing research.

3. What are some proposed solutions for solving quantum mechanics in space-time?

One proposed solution is the theory of quantum loop gravity, which attempts to merge quantum mechanics and general relativity by describing space-time as a network of interconnected loops. Another approach is string theory, which proposes that the fundamental building blocks of the universe are one-dimensional strings rather than point-like particles. Both of these theories are still being developed and tested.

4. How are experiments being conducted to test the effects of general relativity on quantum mechanics?

One way to test the effects of general relativity on quantum mechanics is through experiments with quantum systems in extreme conditions, such as in strong gravitational fields. This can be achieved through particle accelerators or by studying the behavior of particles in the vicinity of black holes. Another approach is to look for discrepancies between the predictions of quantum mechanics and general relativity, which can be done through precision measurements and observations of astronomical phenomena.

5. What are the potential implications of solving quantum mechanics in space-time for our understanding of the universe?

If we are able to successfully merge quantum mechanics and general relativity, it would greatly advance our understanding of the fundamental laws of nature and allow us to better describe and predict the behavior of matter and energy in extreme conditions. It could also potentially lead to new technologies and applications, such as more efficient space travel or improved methods for computing and communication.

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