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For reference purpose only http://www.discover.com/issues/oct-03/cover/ the article in question...sorta...
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It is an easy way to repeat another's ideas. But it can lead up at a blind alley.Originally posted by Chen
"Gravity" does propagate. There is this thing called a gravitational field that every mass creates. This field, like the magnetic and electric fields, propagates through space at the speed of light.
http://www.essentialresults.com/article/Speed_of_gravity
I repeat. [tex]c_g[/tex] must be very close to[, but not above,] [tex]c[/tex].
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity
I repeat. [T]here exists a maximum velocity at which signals can be transmitted.
Humm that is only locally proven to hold true...it might not 'reign' as such as it acts in galactic clusters, or clusterings..."we" don't have any real proof of that just yet...sorta...Originally posted by Michael F. Dmitriyev
(SNIP) - All forces are subjected to 1/r^2 i.e.- there is a nonlinear dependence on distance between objects (SNoP)
Why should the "pushing" particles be effected by other forces? Do you know what their properties are? How they behave in different situations?Sariaht said:How strange the speed of gravity cannot change. Might this support pull theory?
GOT YOU! THERE IS A PULL! Else gravity could be bend, just like light.
whot is the speed of graverty?if nothing can escape a black hole then how can graverty escape and pull objects in ? it can not,just ecept the push FACTS,hip...Sariaht said:How strange the speed of gravity cannot change. Might this support pull theory?
GOT YOU! THERE IS A PULL! Else gravity could be bend, just like light.
firestar effect is not a theory,bet you can't prove it wrong,pallidin said:OK, well, besides the fact that you need some serious sleep, firestar... ummm... with your incredibly silly theory perhaps I should leave it with just that. Get A LOT of sleep.
david firestar said:hope you can understand all thiss 25th centery info,littel birdy flying high droped his cargo from the sky,a farmer said wipeing his eye,its a good job cows can't fly.firestar.
pallidin said:OK, Des, allow me to disprove your theory:
In the following example, the dimesions, materials or mass might not be correct, but, you should get the point...
Take a stiff, non-conducting rod, say, 2-feet long and weighing 2 pounds, and suspend it in the middle(of the rod) to a secure location on your ceiling with a kevlar string sufficient to support, say 100 pounds. OK, easy enough.
Now, attach to each end of this rod 2 non-conductive spheres weighing 25 lbs. each. Great. Now we have a horizontal rod with weights attached hanging from the ceiling with a kevlar string attached to the middle of this horizontal rod.
Close all doors and windows.
Move a 500 lb. mass on a cart, carefully and slowly, such to where the 500 lb. mass is at equal average level to the suspended weights, and towards the "rotational" side of one of the 25 lb. spheres.
Guess what happens? The 25 lb. sphere closest to the 500 lb. mass starts to move towards it.
The 500 lb. mass attracts the 25 lb. sphere(actually, both attract, of course) on a horizontal plane.
This, Des, is gravitational attraction, and the same effect will occur whether you do it on Earth or in deep space.
In addition, place any static object of any compostion between the 2 masses and note the effect: The attraction will always increase, never decrease.
Mr. Robin Parsons said:There is also the simple question of interstellar and/or galactic gravity, how do those particles travel those distances, (To push Galaxies) as they clearly MUST be traveling those distances below c, as they are particles, right? What is the source of those particulate emissions...intergalactically?