Sin wave Maximun/minimum finding?

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In summary, the conversation discusses how to determine whether a sine wave is at a maximum or minimum at a given x value. The participants mention the use of calculus and finding the area bounded by the curve to determine the maximum or minimum. They also discuss how knowing the maximum or minimum at certain x values can help determine the overall trend of the sine wave.
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For different values of x in positive increasing order,sin wave would be either
Max or Min, so I plotted all points.how to find out whether wave is max or min
at a given particular point from X.
Thanks.
 
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Can you describe the problem a bit better? It sounds like you have a sequence of values and some sort of sine function (Asin(w*t+b) as a function of t, A, b and w unknown) and want to know if you've hit a maximum. If that's what you're looking for, you can't do it
 
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pjunky said:
For different values of x in positive increasing order,sin wave would be either
Max or Min, so I plotted all points.how to find out whether wave is max or min
at a given particular point from X.
Thanks.

Well if you're thinking in terms of calculus, you don't need to graph this.

A function will have a relative maximum or minimum when its derivative is equal to zero (or at the endpoints of a piece of the function you're observing), and you can determine whether its a maximum or minimum by finding when its second derivative is equal to zero. When the second derivative is positive, the graph is concave up, and vice versa. A local maximum happens when you have the first derivative set to zero and the second derivative is negative. A local minimum happens when the first derivative is set to zero and the second derivative is positive. Beware, though, this is a general rule of thumb; there can be instances where the graph does not change concavity, or when a local minimum or maximum can be at the endpoint of such a piece of a function that you're looking at.
 
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for Sin(0) wave is minimum,
for Sin(90) wave is maximum,
total:1,2,3,4,5,6,7...n-3,n-2,n-1,n
for Example assume at
1------->Max at x=1 ,y is max
2-------->Min at x=2,y is min
3------->Max
4------->min
5------->min
6------->min
.
.
.
n-1----->max at x=n-1,y is max
n------->min at x=n ,y is min


with out knowing y value,just with the help of 1,2,3,4...n how to know at a 3 or 4 or n-1
Y is max or min.


I got this clues,finding the 'area' bounded by the curve and with provided 1,2,3
finding out y is max or min at asked point.

please help me:rolleyes:,
Thanks.
 
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pjunky said:
for Sin(0) wave is minimum,
for Sin(90) wave is maximum,
total:1,2,3,4,5,6,7...n-3,n-2,n-1,n
for Example assume at
1------->Max at x=1 ,y is max
2-------->Min at x=2,y is min
3------->Max
4------->min
5------->min
6------->min
.
.
.
n-1----->max at x=n-1,y is max
n------->min at x=n ,y is min


with out knowing y value,just with the help of 1,2,3,4...n how to know at a 3 or 4 or n-1
Y is max or min.


I got this clues,finding the 'area' bounded by the curve and with provided 1,2,3
finding out y is max or min at asked point.

please help me:rolleyes:,
Thanks.


More clearly it would be like this

x=1,2,3,4,5,6,...n-2,n-1,n
for example
at x=1 sine wave is Maximum
at x=2 sine wave is Maximum
at x=3 sine wave is Min
at x=4 sine wave is Min
at x=5 sine wave is Maximum
at x=6 sine wave is Min
at x=7 sine wave is Maximum
at x=8 sine wave is Min
at x=9 sine wave is Min
at x=10 sine wave is Min
.
.
.
.
at x=n-1 sine wave is Min
at x=n sine wave is Max.

----------------------------------------------------------------
I mapped all the points,
so for x=1,how to find out wave is Max or Min
with out knowledge of wave.

----------------------------------------------------------------
I'm thinking like this finding out area bounded
by curve,and x values are given,so with the help
of 'area' and x values,I think I can find out y values(Max or Min)

Thanks.
 
  • #6
If sin(1) and sin(2) are maxima, then sin(n) is a maximum for all n, as 1 is necessarily a period. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at
 
  • #7
Office_Shredder said:
If sin(1) and sin(2) are maxima, then sin(n) is a maximum for all n, as 1 is necessarily a period. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at

not like that you are taking sin(1),sin(2)...sin(n) as max

Just imagine x values in I quadrant in the graph.
now y values i.e sin wave values are mapped as min or max.

now have to find out at x=3 wave is max or min without reading the wave.
:confused:
 

Related to Sin wave Maximun/minimum finding?

1. What is a sine wave maximum/minimum?

A sine wave maximum/minimum is a point on a sine wave graph where the wave reaches its highest or lowest point.

2. How do you find the maximum/minimum of a sine wave?

To find the maximum/minimum of a sine wave, you can use calculus by taking the derivative of the sine function and setting it equal to zero to find the critical points. Alternatively, you can use the amplitude and period of the sine wave to determine the maximum/minimum points.

3. What is the difference between a sine wave maximum and minimum?

The main difference between a sine wave maximum and minimum is their location on the graph. A maximum is the highest point on the graph, while a minimum is the lowest point on the graph.

4. Can a sine wave have multiple maximums/minimums?

Yes, a sine wave can have multiple maximums/minimums. The number of maximums/minimums depends on the amplitude and frequency of the wave.

5. Why is it important to find the maximum/minimum of a sine wave?

Finding the maximum/minimum of a sine wave is important in various applications, such as signal processing and electrical engineering. It helps in analyzing and predicting the behavior of a wave and can also assist in designing and troubleshooting electronic circuits.

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