Simple RC and RL Transfer Functions

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the cutoff frequency for a given transfer function and elaborates on the process of finding the corner frequencies. The transfer function in question is that of a low-pass filter and the physical significance of the cutoff frequency is that it represents the point at which the system's behavior changes significantly.
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[Solved] Simple RC and RL Transfer Functions

Homework Statement


Given the transfer function:

TF= (200)/(1 + j0.001w)

a. Determine the cuttoff frequency in radians per second and in hertz


Homework Equations



There are a couple other equations like this in the book, but I just don't grasp the concept or the formulas that the book offers which looks like TF(w)= Vout/Vin = A < Theta degrees.


The Attempt at a Solution



TF= Vout/Vin = 200 / (1 + j0.001w) --> converted to rectangular form

(200 < 0)/(1 < .057) = 200 < -.057

Which I know is horribly wrong, but these formulas just don't make sense to me. :/
 
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Figured it out and did some deeper reading online, came up with:

Wc= 1/t

Where in the equation TF=200/(1+j.001w), t=.001

So, 1/.001 = 1000

Then you take Wc/(2*pi)

Which then gives you 159.15 Hz
 
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Looks like you've already answered your own question, but I thought I'd elaborate...

To find the corner frequencies of a transfer function (incidentally, the transfer function you give is that of a low-pass filter--Wikipedia for it), you just have to find its poles ('w' which make the denominator go to zero).

In this case, you just set 1+0.001j*w to zero, and determine that w_c is 1000j, which you interpret as 1000 rad/s, or with the formula that w_c = 2*pi*f_c, 159 Hz. (Technically, it should be when the magnitude of the transfer function goes to zero, which gives you the two poles at +/-1000j, and hence, a real frequency of 1000 rad/s).

What is the physical significance of this divide by zero? (Assuming you haven't taken any complex analysis courses)--the system's 'quirks' emerge and have a significant impact (in the case of a low-pass filter, that frequencies higher than the cut-off get significantly attenuated or, cut-off, so to speak). Yes, yes, this is an idealized view of things, but it does give you significant useful information.
 

Related to Simple RC and RL Transfer Functions

1. What is a transfer function for a simple RC circuit?

A transfer function for a simple RC circuit is a mathematical representation of the relationship between the input voltage and the output voltage. It describes how the circuit responds to changes in the input signal.

2. How is a transfer function for a simple RC circuit derived?

The transfer function for a simple RC circuit can be derived by taking the Laplace transform of the differential equation that describes the circuit and solving for the output voltage in terms of the input voltage.

3. What is the time constant in a simple RC circuit?

The time constant in a simple RC circuit is a measure of how quickly the circuit responds to changes in the input voltage. It is equal to the product of the resistance and capacitance in the circuit.

4. How does a transfer function for a simple RL circuit differ from an RC circuit?

A transfer function for a simple RL circuit is derived in the same way as an RC circuit, but it takes into account the inductance of the circuit as well as the resistance. This results in a different mathematical expression for the transfer function.

5. Can the transfer function for a simple RC or RL circuit be used to analyze more complex circuits?

Yes, the transfer function for a simple RC or RL circuit can be used as a building block to analyze more complex circuits. By combining multiple transfer functions, the behavior of more complex circuits can be predicted and analyzed.

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