Simple Law of Cosines Question

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In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of the difference in distance between the tops and bases of suspension towers built with the Earth's roundness in mind. The input data includes the Earth's radius, the location of the base of the towers above sea level, the distance between the bases, and the height of the towers. The conversation mentions using the law of cosines to calculate this difference, but it is ultimately simplified due to the Earth's large radius. The formula provided for the straight-line distance between the tops of the towers takes into account the angle between them and the height of the towers. The example given illustrates a small difference in distance over a large distance, which is negligible in this scenario.
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Simple Law of Cosines Question

Huge suspension bridges are build with the Earth's roundness in mind. The two towers are plumb line straight up and down and yet, because of their colossal size, they are a bit further apart at their tops than they are at their base. So, how can we calculate what this difference would be?

Here is the input data:

If we know the Earth's radius; the location of the base of the towers above sea level; The distance (from the center of each base of the tower) between the bases; and the height of the tower, how would we calculate the distance from the tops of the towers.

I made this video to explain what I am talking about but I want to have the mathematical formula to predict the distance differences between the tops of the towers compared to the base:

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I have seen a similar question answered once using something called "the law of cosines" where, if you know an angle and the length of two vectors, you can calculate the distances between the two vectors? I hope that helps and gives us a clue.
 
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Suppose we consider the Earth to be a sphere with radius $r_E$, and our two towers have their bases at the same distance from the center of the Earth, Let $h_1$ be the height of the first tower and $h_2$ be the height of the second tower.

If we know the distance $a$ along the surface of the Earth between the two towers, then the angle between them is:

\(\displaystyle \theta=\frac{a}{r_E}\)

And so the straight-line distance between the bases of the towers is:

\(\displaystyle d_B=\sqrt{2r_E^2\left(1-\cos(\theta)\right)}\)

And the straight-line distance between the tops of the towers is:

\(\displaystyle d_T=\sqrt{\left(r_E+h_1\right)^2+\left(r_E+h_2\right)^2-2\left(r_E+h_1\right)\left(r_E+h_2\right)\cos(\theta)}\)

Does that help?
 
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Since the radius of the Earth is absurdly big with respect to anything we're doing, we can neglect any differences between arcs and straight lines. In other words, there's no real need for cosines or such.

Suppose $a$ is the distance at the base, $h$ is the common height of the 2 towers, and $R$ is the radius of earth.
Then the corresponding angle $\theta$ is:
$$\theta= \frac aR$$
The arc length at the top is then $(R+h)\theta$.
And the difference in distance between top and bottom is:
$$\Delta s = (R+h)\theta - R\theta = h\theta = \frac hR a$$

As an example, suppose $h=600\text{ m}$, $a=1\text{ km}$, and $R=6000\text{ km}$.
Then:
$$\Delta s = \frac {0.6}{6000}\cdot 1\text{ km}=0.1\text{ m}$$
That is, if the towers are as high as the highest tower in the world, we have 10 centimeters over a distance of a kilometer.
 

Related to Simple Law of Cosines Question

1. What is the Law of Cosines?

The Law of Cosines is a mathematical formula used to find the side lengths or angles of a triangle when given certain information, such as the lengths of two sides and the measure of the included angle. It is an extension of the Pythagorean Theorem and is often used to solve problems involving oblique triangles.

2. How is the Law of Cosines different from the Law of Sines?

The Law of Cosines and the Law of Sines are both trigonometric laws used to solve problems involving triangles. The main difference is that the Law of Sines is used for solving problems involving right triangles, while the Law of Cosines can be used for solving problems involving any type of triangle. Additionally, the Law of Sines uses ratios of angles to side lengths, while the Law of Cosines uses the cosine function.

3. When should I use the Law of Cosines?

The Law of Cosines is most commonly used when solving for the side lengths or angles of a triangle when given the lengths of two sides and the measure of the included angle. It is also useful for solving problems involving oblique triangles, where none of the angles are 90 degrees.

4. Can the Law of Cosines be used to find the area of a triangle?

No, the Law of Cosines is not used to find the area of a triangle. It is used to find missing side lengths or angles of a triangle. To find the area of a triangle, you can use the formula A = 1/2 * base * height or use trigonometric functions such as sine and cosine to calculate the area.

5. What are some real-life applications of the Law of Cosines?

The Law of Cosines has various real-life applications in fields such as architecture, engineering, and navigation. It can be used to determine the heights of buildings and structures, the lengths of bridges and roads, and the distances between two points on a map. It is also used in astronomy to calculate the distances between celestial objects.

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