Simple differentiation mistake?

In summary, the conversation discusses a discrepancy between the given equation and the expected outcome. It is determined that the discrepancy is due to a special rule for the derivative of arctan when there are two arguments. It is ultimately concluded that the equation is correct and that the discrepancy is due to the cancellation of the cosine term.
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The working out states that v = (m/r)sin(theta) but surely this should be (-m/r)sin(theta) ? I mean there is a negative in front of the ∂Ψ/dx ?

Also, if v=0 then 0 = (m/r)sin(theta), therefore sin(theta) = 0? And from this we know cos(theta) = 1 or -1 which would mean u = Uinfinity + (m/r) or Uinfinity - (m/r) as opposed to u = Uinfinity + (m/x) as they got?
 
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influx said:
The working out states that v = (m/r)sin(theta) but surely this should be (-m/r)sin(theta) ? I mean there is a negative in front of the ∂Ψ/dx ?
When you take the derivative of ##\arctan (y/x)## with respect to ##x##, you also get a ##-1## factor as ##x## is in the denominator. That cancels the first minus sign.

influx said:
Also, if v=0 then 0 = (m/r)sin(theta), therefore sin(theta) = 0? And from this we know cos(theta) = 1 or -1 which would mean u = Uinfinity + (m/r) or Uinfinity - (m/r) as opposed to u = Uinfinity + (m/x) as they got?
##x=r\cos \theta##, so ##u=U_\infty +\frac{m}{r}\cos \theta## becomes ##u=U_\infty+\frac{m}{x}## (the ##\cos \theta## cancels out, so it doesn't matter if it is +1 or -1).
 
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influx said:
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The working out states that v = (m/r)sin(theta) but surely this should be (-m/r)sin(theta) ? I mean there is a negative in front of the ∂Ψ/dx ?

Also, if v=0 then 0 = (m/r)sin(theta), therefore sin(theta) = 0? And from this we know cos(theta) = 1 or -1 which would mean u = Uinfinity + (m/r) or Uinfinity - (m/r) as opposed to u = Uinfinity + (m/x) as they got?
I think it has to do with the way the arctan is used here. There are two arguments, x and y, instead of one. There is a special rule for the derivative of tan-1(y/x), as shown in this article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differentiation_rules#Derivatives_of_trigonometric_functions
 
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Samy_A said:
##x=r\cos \theta##, so ##u=U_\infty +\frac{m}{r}\cos \theta## becomes ##u=U_\infty+\frac{m}{x}## (the ##\cos \theta## cancels out, so it doesn't matter if it is +1 or -1).
Oops, the stated reason is wrong.

Actually, ##u=U_\infty +\frac{m}{r}\cos \theta=U_\infty +\frac{m}{x}\cos² \theta##, and as ##\cos \theta =\pm 1##, we get ##u=U_\infty+\frac{m}{x}##.

Sorry for the mistake.
 

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What is a simple differentiation mistake?

A simple differentiation mistake is an error made during the process of finding the derivative of a function, typically in calculus. It can occur at any step of the process and can lead to incorrect results.

What are some common examples of simple differentiation mistakes?

Some common examples of simple differentiation mistakes include forgetting to apply the chain rule, dropping a negative sign, or incorrectly applying the power rule.

How can I avoid making simple differentiation mistakes?

To avoid making simple differentiation mistakes, it is important to carefully follow the steps of the differentiation process and double check your work. Practice and familiarity with the rules and concepts of differentiation can also help prevent mistakes.

What are the consequences of making a simple differentiation mistake?

The consequences of making a simple differentiation mistake can vary depending on the context. In some cases, it may lead to incorrect results and potentially affect the outcome of a problem or calculation. In other cases, it may simply require more time and effort to correct the mistake.

Can simple differentiation mistakes be corrected?

Yes, simple differentiation mistakes can be corrected by identifying the error and going back through the steps of the differentiation process to fix it. It is important to carefully review your work and check for any other potential mistakes before finalizing your solution.

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