Significance of ((H,x),x) double commutator?

In summary, the conversation discusses the significance of calculating (H,x) and ((H,x),x) for a given Hermitian operator H. These commutator and double commutator relations are useful for understanding transformations in quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to unitary transformations and operators. Additionally, the higher order commutators determine the transformation properties of one operator with respect to the transformation generated by another operator. The example of mx being the generator of Galilean boost is also mentioned, highlighting the importance of double commutators in calculating changes in reference frames.
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I've just done a textbook exersize to calculate (H,x) and ((H,x),x) for H= p^2/2m +V.

Having done the manipulation, my next question is what is the significance of this calculation. Where would one use these commutator and double commutator relations?
 
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One place where the double (and higher) commutator comes into play is when you perform a transformation, such as a rotation or a translation.

Transformations such as these are performed through a unitary transformation [tex]U[/tex]. In turn, such a unitary transformation is said to be generated by the Hermitian operator [tex]A[/tex] if we can write:

[tex]U = e^{iA}[/tex]

Here the exponential of an operator is defined through the Taylor series of the exponential. Now, the effect of this transformation is that it transforms vectors in your Hilbert space as:

[tex]|v\rangle \longrightarrow |v'\rangle = e^{iA}|v\rangle[/tex]

Operators which act on this Hilbert space are also transformed, namely:

[tex]O \longrightarrow O' = U^\dagOU = e^{-iA}Oe^{iA}[/tex]

With this definition the expecation value of the operator [tex]O[/tex] is invariant under the transformation, i.e.

[tex]\langle v|O|v\rangle \langle v'|O'|v'\rangle[/tex]

Anyways, if you expand the transformation of the operator, i.e. if you just use the Taylor series, you will find that it looks like:

[tex]e^{iA}Oe^{-iA} = O + i[O,A] + \frac{i^2}{2!} [[O,A],A] + \ldots[/tex]

where the dots denote the triple and higher commutators.

Long story short, the higher order commutators of two operators determine the transformation properties of one operator with respect to the transformation generated by the other operator.
 
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Adding to the above:

[tex]mx[/tex] is the generator of the Galilean boost (see e.g. "http://www.physics.princeton.edu/~mcdonald/examples/QM/brown_ajp_67_204_99.pdf" "). So if you want to calculate how H changes when you change your reference frame to a moving one with velocity v, you will have to calculate the double commutator. (The higher commutators will be easy in this particular case!)
 
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Related to Significance of ((H,x),x) double commutator?

What is a ((H,x),x) double commutator?

A ((H,x),x) double commutator is a mathematical operation that involves two commutators. It can be denoted as [[H,x],x] and is used to measure the degree of non-commutativity between two operators, H and x.

What is the significance of ((H,x),x) double commutator?

The ((H,x),x) double commutator is significant because it helps determine the degree of non-commutativity between two operators, which is important in quantum mechanics and other areas of physics. It can also be used to calculate the uncertainty in measurements of the two operators.

How is the ((H,x),x) double commutator calculated?

The ((H,x),x) double commutator is calculated by first calculating the commutator between H and x, denoted as [H,x]. Then, the commutator of this result with x is calculated, resulting in the ((H,x),x) double commutator, [[H,x],x].

What does a non-zero ((H,x),x) double commutator indicate?

A non-zero ((H,x),x) double commutator indicates that the two operators, H and x, do not commute with each other. This means that the order of the operations matters, and they cannot be simultaneously measured with perfect accuracy.

How does the ((H,x),x) double commutator relate to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle?

The ((H,x),x) double commutator is directly related to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. The uncertainty principle states that the product of uncertainties in the measurements of two non-commuting operators must be greater than or equal to the absolute value of their ((H,x),x) double commutator. This means that the more non-commutative the operators are, the greater the uncertainty in their measurements.

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