Signals and systems - zero state response

In summary, the conversation discusses the zero state response in electrical circuit theory and its relationship to other responses such as the zero input response and total response. The zero state response is the forced or driven response of a circuit, resulting only from external inputs or driving functions, while the zero input response is the natural response resulting from the initial state of the circuit. The zero state response can be described by a system-specific equation in the s-domain.
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hey something is really confusing me...

we are given this impulse response

h[k] = 2d[k] +((0.8)^k).u[k] + (2(-0.4)^k).u[k]

where d is delta...
anyway the question then asks:

using the convolution, determine the ZERO STATE RESPONSE for an input signal x[k] = 2u[k+2] - 2u[k-4].

Now i kown how to solve that using the convoltion sum (as required):

[tex] y[n] = x[n] * h[n] = \sum_{k=-\infty}^{\infty}h[k] x[n-k][/tex]

my only problem is that this evaluates the total reponse, y[k]!
where our total reponse is equal to the zero state response and the zero input response...
but we just want zero state response - my peers and a tutor say that the convoltution sum is just the zero state response!
is this true...?
they also told me that the zero state response is not necessarily the forced response - (but in textbooks and other sources they always refer to these as the same thing)
thanks...
 
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_state_response said:
In electrical circuit theory, the zero state response (ZSR), also known as the forced response is the behavior or response of a circuit with initial state of zero. The ZSR results only from the external inputs or driving functions of the circuit and not from the initial state. The ZSR is also called the forced or driven response of the circuit.

The total response of the circuit is the superposition of the ZSR and the ZIR, or Zero Input Response. The ZIR results only from the initial state of the circuit and not from any external drive. The ZIR is also called the natural response, and the resonant frequencies of the ZIR are called the natural frequencies. Given a description of a system in the s-domain, the zero-state response can be described as Y(s)=Init(s)/a(s) where a(s) and Init(s) are system-specific.
 

Related to Signals and systems - zero state response

1. What is the zero state response of a system?

The zero state response of a system refers to the response of the system to an input signal when the initial conditions are zero. In other words, it is the response of the system without any previous input signal or energy stored in the system.

2. What does the zero state response tell us about a system?

The zero state response provides information about the behavior of the system when it is not influenced by any previous input signals. It helps in understanding the inherent characteristics of the system, such as stability, linearity, and time-invariance.

3. How is the zero state response different from the total response?

The total response of a system includes both the zero state response and the zero input response. The zero state response is the part of the total response that is due to the input signal only, while the zero input response is the part that is due to the initial conditions of the system.

4. Can the zero state response be calculated using the impulse response of a system?

Yes, the zero state response can be calculated using the impulse response of a system. This can be done by convolving the impulse response with the input signal and integrating the result over time.

5. How does the zero state response affect the stability of a system?

The zero state response does not affect the stability of a system. The stability of a system is determined by the poles of its transfer function, which are not affected by the zero state response. However, the zero state response can affect the transient behavior of a system, which can indirectly impact its stability.

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