Show how gravitational potential varies between the earth and the moon

In summary, the gravitational potential at the surface of the Earth is -63MJkg-1 and at the surface of the moon it is -2MJkg-1. Gravitational potential is a scalar quantity and at any point it is inversely proportional to the distance from its source. The total potential at any point between two masses is the sum of the potentials produced by each mass separately. This can result in a peak in gravitational potential between the Earth and the moon, with a value that is still negative.
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gravitational potential at surface of the Earth = -63MJkg-1
gravitational potential at surface of the moon = -2MJkg-1The attempt at a solution

I thought gravitational potential was a scalar, so in which case, you would surely just add up the potential due from both masses at any point along the line between them to show how the 'resultant' potential varies between them

apparently, that isn't the case, and I suppose that does make sense, because the two masses are pulling in opposite direction. Gravitational potential is the amount of energy you would have to put into escape from the gravitational influence of a particular mass, and if you already have a force 'assisting' you (gravity due from another mass on the other side of you), then you don't require as much energy. Is this way of thinking right?

but I'm really puzzled by the mark scheme:

''Gravitational potential is a scalar quantity. The total potential at any point along a line joining the Earth and Moon is the sum of the potentials produced by the Earth and Moon separately''

doesn't ''sum of'' means you add up the two quantities. So in which case, how would you get a 'peak' in gravitational potential somewhere between the Earth and the moon whereby the gravitational potential is at its least negative?

if you add a negative value to a negative value, you get even larger negative value, so I'm slightly confuse
 
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The potential is a scalar, but not constant, at any point it is inversely proportional to the distance from its source. It is always negative, approaching zero infinitely far away.
 
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question dude said:
I thought gravitational potential was a scalar, so in which case, you would surely just add up the potential due from both masses at any point along the line between them to show how the 'resultant' potential varies between them
Yep. That's correct.

question dude said:
doesn't ''sum of'' means you add up the two quantities. So in which case, how would you get a 'peak' in gravitational potential somewhere between the Earth and the moon whereby the gravitational potential is at its least negative?

if you add a negative value to a negative value, you get even larger negative value, so I'm slightly confuse
Yes. So the gravitational potential is going to be negative. What is wrong with having a 'peak' that is still less than zero?
 
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BruceW said:
Yep. That's correct.


Yes. So the gravitational potential is going to be negative. What is wrong with having a 'peak' that is still less than zero?

so at the point where the two masses' gravitational field strength cancel, say if the gravitatiional potential due from one mass was -60MJkg-1 and the gravitational potential due from the other mass is -40MJkg-1, the resultant potential at this point would be -100MJkg-1?
 
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yeah, that's it. I haven't worked out the values for this specific problem, but, yes, that is the right idea.
 

Related to Show how gravitational potential varies between the earth and the moon

1. How does the gravitational potential between the earth and the moon differ?

The gravitational potential between the earth and the moon differs due to their different masses. The earth has a larger mass, which means it has a stronger gravitational pull compared to the moon. This results in a greater gravitational potential on the surface of the earth compared to the moon.

2. What factors affect the gravitational potential between the earth and the moon?

The gravitational potential between the earth and the moon is affected by the distance between them and their masses. The closer the objects are, the stronger the gravitational potential. Similarly, the larger the mass of the objects, the stronger the gravitational potential.

3. How does the distance between the earth and the moon affect the gravitational potential?

The distance between the earth and the moon has a direct impact on the gravitational potential between the two objects. As the distance increases, the gravitational potential decreases, and vice versa. This is because the gravitational force follows an inverse-square law, meaning the force decreases as the distance increases.

4. Is there a difference in the gravitational potential at different points on the earth and the moon?

Yes, there is a difference in the gravitational potential at different points on the earth and the moon. The gravitational potential is strongest at the surface of the objects and decreases as you move away from the surface. This is due to the varying distances from the center of mass of the objects.

5. How does the gravitational potential affect objects on the earth and the moon?

The gravitational potential affects objects on the earth and the moon by exerting a force on them. This force is what keeps objects in orbit around the earth and the moon. The strength of this force depends on the mass of the objects and their distance from each other.

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