Schrodinger equation, potential energy function

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Cogswell
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A particle of mass m is in the state
[tex] \Psi (x,t) = A e^{-a[(mx^2 / \hbar ) + it]}[/tex]Find A
For what potential energy function V(x) does [tex]\Psi[/tex] satisfy the Schrodinger equation?


Do I just re-arrange for A? (Sorry if I seem really dumb). I'm not really getting this.
 
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  • #2
To find ##A## means to normalize the function. You want
$$
\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} \left| \psi(x,t) \right|^2 dx = 1
$$

For the second part, you need to plug the wave function in the Schrödinger equation to find ##V(x)##. My guess is that you will need to use both the time-dependent and the time-independent Schrödinger equations.
 
  • #3
Here's my attempt, which took over 2 hours >.<

I hope the final answers are right, but am I going about it the right way?
Sorry the photos are blurry.
 

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  • #4
For the normalization, you have to integrate ##| \psi(x,t) |^2 = \psi(x,t)^* \psi(x,t)##. Time should disappear for the final result for ##A##.
 
  • #5
I've check the calculation of ##V(x)## and you got it right!
 
  • #6
DrClaude said:
For the normalization, you have to integrate ##| \psi(x,t) |^2 = \psi(x,t)^* \psi(x,t)##. Time should disappear for the final result for ##A##.

Sorry the picture is really blurry. My final answer does have time in it:

[tex]A = (\dfrac{2ame^{4ait}}{\pi \hbar})^{1/4}[/tex]
 
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Cogswell said:
Sorry the picture is really blurry. My final answer does have time in it:

[tex]A = (\dfrac{2ame^{4ait}}{\pi \hbar})^{1/4}[/tex]

And that is not correct. I think you forgot to take the complex conjugate.
 
  • #8
If I do that wouldn't everything cancel out before I even integrate it?

[tex]\int_{- \infty}^{\infty} A A^* e^{-a[mx^2 / \hbar + it]} e^{a[mx^2 / \hbar + it]} dx = 1[/tex]

And so that would just become:

[tex]\int_{- \infty}^{\infty} A A^*dx = 1[/tex]

??
 
  • #9
No, because only the imaginary part changes sign:
$$
\left( A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar + i t]} \right)^* = A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar - i t]}
$$
 
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DrClaude said:
No, because only the imaginary part changes sign:
$$
\left( A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar + i t]} \right)^* = A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar - i t]}
$$
Ah yes, that makes sense.

After a bit of working out again, I still think I'm missing something...
Even if I use $$
\left( A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar + i t]} \right)^* = A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar - i t]}
$$
my integral becomes:

[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar + i t]} A e^{-a [m x^2/\hbar - i t]} dx = 1[/tex]

Which becomes:

[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} A^2 e^{-a m x^2/\hbar} e^{ -a i t} e^{-a m x^2/\hbar} e^{a i t} dx = 1[/tex]

If I evaluate the integral, I get the final result of [tex]A = \displaystyle \left(\frac{2am}{ \pi \hbar}\right)^{1/4}[/tex]

And then the time cancels out. So how would I get time left in the final result?
 
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Cogswell said:
If I evaluate the integral, I get the final result of [tex]A = \displaystyle \left(\frac{2am}{ \pi \hbar}\right)^{1/4}[/tex]

And then the time cancels out. So how would I get time left in the final result?
That is the correct answer. You might have misunderstood what I wrote earlier, but time should disappear from the final answer.
 
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Great, thank you!
Is there a 'thanks' or 'like' button on these forums? I can't seem to find it.
 
  • #13
Cogswell said:
Great, thank you!
You're welcome!

Cogswell said:
Is there a 'thanks' or 'like' button on these forums? I can't seem to find it.
Not that I know of.
 

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The Schrodinger equation is a mathematical equation in quantum mechanics that describes the time evolution of a quantum system. It is used to calculate the probability of finding a particle in a particular state at a given time.

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The Schrodinger equation was developed by Austrian physicist Erwin Schrodinger in 1926. He was trying to find an equation that could describe the behavior of electrons in atoms.

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