Scale 1:25 or 1:75 why scale ruler first reading is 0.5m and....

In summary, the conversation discusses the confusion over scale ratios of 1:25 and 1:75 on a ruler. The confusion arises from the number of tiny lines between 0 and the next reading, with 25 lines for 1:25 and 20 lines for 1:75. The conversation clarifies that each mark on the ruler corresponds to 0.02 m or 2 cm, and not 25 mm as initially thought. The conversation also references quotes that discuss using real millimeters, but the ruler is using measurement units. The conversation concludes with the reminder to not overcomplicate the ratios and to pay attention to the graduations on the paper map or scaled drawing.
  • #1
zillah
Dear folks

Yes I do understand scale ration 1:25 means 1 unit on a map equal to 25 units on a real and scale ration 1:75 means 1 unit on a map equal to 75 units on real

Question my Kent tri scale ruler for the ratio 1:25 showing first number as 0.5 m (i.e 50 cm, 500 mm)

While first reading for ratio 1:75 as 1 m (100 cm, 1000mm).

My confusion for the ratio 1:25 ruler has 25 small tiny line between 0 and the next reading,,, means there are 25 units right ? if we times 25 tiny lines x 25 mm = 625 mm not 500 mm
http://imgur.com/a/CmVFe

Same thing for the ratio 1:75 ruler has 20 small tiny lines between 0 and the next reading means there are 20 units right ?? 20 yimy lines x 75 = 1500 mm not 1 m
http://imgur.com/a/42AyTThanks
 
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  • #2
zillah said:
My confusion for the ratio 1:25 ruler has 25 small tiny line between 0 and the next reading,,, means there are 25 units right ? if we times 25 tiny lines x 25 mm = 625 mm not 500 mm
http://imgur.com/a/CmVFe
No, you are reading it wrong. You need to follow the graduation. Since there are 25 marks in what corresponds to 0.5 m, each mark corresponds to 0.5 m/25 = 0.02 m = 2 cm. You also clearly see that the 0.5 m on the 1:25 scale takes up 2 cm as it should (2 cm x 25 = 50 cm). Why do you think each mark should correspond to 25 mm?
 
  • #3
No, you are reading it wrong. You need to follow the graduation. Since there are 25 marks in what corresponds to 0.5 m, each mark corresponds to 0.5 m/25 = 0.02 m = 2 cm.
When you divide 0.5 m by 25 tiny lines (divisions) yes I do agree that each division is 2 cm ( 20 mm)

Why do you think each mark should correspond to 25 mm?
Don't you think below quote agree with what I understood for each tiny lines ?
http://www.archaeologica.org/Drawing%20to%20Scale.htm
http://www.archaeologica.org/Drawing%20to%20Scale.htm
Here they consider tiny division (i.e mm) and each tiny line on ruler is 200 mm on real
Let's start with the scale at the top labeled 1:200. Imagine that you lay this scale on your piece of paper and draw a line from the 0 to the number 5. You just drew a line that is 5 meters long at 1:200,meaning that if you measured this line on the paper, every millimeter would be equal to 200 millimeters on the original object you are drawing.
https://www.dlsweb.rmit.edu.au/toolb...l/04scales.htm
Here same as above they consider tiny division and they multiply them by the used scale to find real dimension on real
The photo below shows measuring diagonally with a ruler from a wall corner to a wall corner on a site plan.The measurement on the ruler is 78 millimetres ( 0.078 metres). The scale is 1:200. Therefore the actual size would be 15.6 metres (0.078m X 200).
 
  • #4
zillah said:
When you divide 0.5 m by 25 tiny lines (divisions) yes I do agree that each division is 2 cm ( 20 mm)


Don't you think below quote agree with what I understood for each tiny lines ?
http://www.archaeologica.org/Drawing%20to%20Scale.htm
Here they consider tiny division (i.e mm) and each tiny line on ruler is 200 mm on real

https://www.dlsweb.rmit.edu.au/toolb...l/04scales.htm
Here same as above they consider tiny division and they multiply them by the used scale to find real dimension on real
No. Neither of those quotes agree with your interpretation. The first discusses real millimeters (not gradings on your scaled ruler) and the second uses a 1:1 ruler.
 
  • #5
Do not make these ratios into something complicated.
1:25 would mean one unit on the paper represents 25 of some other but specified units in real place. Do you have graduations shown on your paper map or scaled drawing?

Your first picture imgur link shows something different than a "drawing". The upper scale suggests 1 unit of some kind, and the corresponding lower scale shows a spanning of "26 to 30" of some other unit. This picture appears to show ratio of 1:4, for the upper_scale to the lower_scale.
 
  • #6
The first discusses real millimeters (not gradings on your scaled ruler)
Yes this was my confusion ,they are measurement unit not real millimeter
 

1. Why is the scale ruler first reading 0.5m?

The scale ruler is designed to represent a smaller version of the actual measurement. In this case, the scale is 1:25 or 1:75, meaning that 1 unit on the ruler represents 25 or 75 units in real life. Therefore, the first reading on the ruler is 0.5m (or 50cm) to accurately represent the actual measurement of 12.5m or 37.5m.

2. How do I use a scale ruler?

To use a scale ruler, you first need to determine the scale of the ruler. This is usually indicated on the ruler itself. Then, simply measure the distance you want to scale on the ruler and multiply it by the scale. For example, if the scale is 1:25 and you want to measure a distance of 10m, you would measure 10cm on the ruler (10m x 1/25 = 10cm).

3. Can I use a scale ruler for any scale?

No, scale rulers are specifically designed for certain scales. Using the wrong scale ruler will result in inaccurate measurements. It is important to check the scale of the ruler before using it.

4. What is the difference between a scale of 1:25 and 1:75?

The difference between these two scales is the ratio of the model measurement to the actual measurement. A scale of 1:25 means that 1 unit on the ruler represents 25 units in real life, while a scale of 1:75 means that 1 unit on the ruler represents 75 units in real life. The smaller the second number, the larger the scale and the more detailed the model will be.

5. Why are there two scales on some rulers?

Some scale rulers have two scales on them (e.g. 1:25 and 1:75), allowing you to measure using either scale depending on your needs. This can be useful when working with different scales or measurements that do not fit neatly into one scale.

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