Rutherford scattering question

In summary, the conversation discusses the derivation of the equation d(chi)/dt = l/(mr^2) and how to get to that point. The use of the definition of angular momentum and the role of the tangential and radial parts of velocity are discussed. The final equation is shown to be L=mr x r dx/dtx_hat, with a magnitude of mr^2dx/dt.
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d(chi)/dt =l/(mr^2), I don't see how to get there

if you use the definition of angular momentum, you get l=r x mv(vectors where appropriate)

so you can write v as v=dr/dt*r + rdx/dt*x where x is the symbol chi(close enough)and that r and x at the end of the two expressions are unit vectors

So you can write the magnitude of l=|mr*v| where v is as above. Then I'm stumped
 
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Only the tangential part of v contributes to L ... it is ANGULAR momentum.
the radial part has r x (dr/dt)r_hat = 0 .
So, with the angular part, as you say, L = r m r dtheta/dt
=> dtheta/dt = L/mr^2 .
 
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Okokok I think you cleared it up

So to write it out completely, L=mr x (dr/dtr_hat+rdx/dtx_hat)

There's a distributive property for the cross product, right? So you get mr x dr/dtr_hat, and r and r_hat are parallel so it's 0, and you're left with L=mr x r dx/dtx_hat, the magnitude of which is mr^2dx/dt?
 

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