Rotational velocity of the ring

In summary, the conversation discusses the application of conservation of angular momentum and energy to a system consisting of a ring, a bug, and a pivot. The final angular velocity and velocity of the bug are determined using the equations, assuming no net external torque and force on the system. The concept of conservation of mechanical energy is also mentioned, but it is noted that it cannot be applied in this situation due to the bug's internal interactions.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Wrt inertial frame with origin at the pivot,
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The final angular velocity of the ring, the bug are ## \vec ω_r ## and ## \vec ω_b ## and the final velocity of the bug is ## \vec v_b ##.
Since, there is no net external torque and force is acting on the system , conservation of angular momentum and energy could be applied.
Conservation of angular momentum about the pivot gives,
0 = I_{piv} ## \vec ω _r + 2 \vec R \times m \vec v_b ##
assuming that ## \vec v_b ## is perpendicular to ## \vec R ##,
This gives ## v_b = \frac M m ω_r R ##
Conservation of energy gives,
##\frac 1 2 m v^2 = \frac 1 2 I_{piv} {ω_r}^2 + \frac 1 2 m {v_b}^2 ##
Substituting the value of ## v_b ## in the above eqn. gives
##ω_r = \frac {mv} {R\sqrt { M ( 2m + m) }} ##
Is this correct so far?
Is
## \vec v_b = \vec ω_b \times \vec R ## ?
 
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Pushoam said:
the final velocity of the bug
Not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean the velocity of the bug in the lab frame when the bug is halfway round?
Pushoam said:
conservation of angular momentum
Yes, but only if you are taking moments about the pivot.
Pushoam said:
and energy
The bug does work. You cannot use conservation of energy.
 
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haruspex said:
The bug does work. You cannot use conservation of energy.
I got it: The mechanical energy of the system due to bug's internal interactions gets changed. So, conservation of mechanical energy cannot be applied here.
 

Related to Rotational velocity of the ring

1. What is the rotational velocity of the ring?

The rotational velocity of the ring refers to the speed at which the ring is rotating around its central axis. It is typically measured in revolutions per minute (RPM) or radians per second.

2. How is the rotational velocity of the ring calculated?

The rotational velocity of the ring can be calculated by dividing the angular displacement (change in angle) by the time it takes for the ring to complete one revolution. It can also be calculated by dividing the linear velocity (speed at which a point on the ring's edge is moving) by the radius of the ring.

3. What factors can affect the rotational velocity of the ring?

The rotational velocity of the ring can be affected by a variety of factors, including the mass and distribution of the ring's material, any external forces or torques acting on the ring, and the shape and size of the ring itself.

4. What is the significance of the rotational velocity of the ring?

The rotational velocity of the ring is important in understanding the dynamics and behavior of rotating objects. It can also have practical applications in fields such as engineering and astronomy, where precise measurements of rotational velocity are necessary.

5. How is the rotational velocity of the ring related to other rotational quantities?

The rotational velocity of the ring is directly related to its angular velocity (speed at which it is changing its angle) and angular momentum (measure of its rotational motion). It is also related to the moment of inertia, which is a measure of the ring's resistance to changes in rotational motion.

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