Resultant Force Acting On Springs : Confused

In summary, two insulated metal rods measuring 40 cm each are connected in parallel with three identical springs of length 20 cm and force constant 2.0 N/m. When a current of 20A is passed through the rods in opposing directions, the force acting on each rod is calculated to be 0.0036 N, causing the rods to repel each other. The resulting force acting on each spring is 0.0012 N, as the spring must pull back with an equal and opposite force to maintain equilibrium. Therefore, the extension of each spring is also 0.0012 N.
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Homework Statement


Suppose we have 2 insulated metal rods each measuring 40 cm. Now,the 2 metal rods are connected with 3 identical springs each of length 20 cm (force constant 2.0 N/m) in parallel. A current of 20A is passed through each metal rod in opposing directions. What is the extension of each spring? The springs are initially not stretched.




Homework Equations


F=BIL

B= {[tex]\mu[/tex] x I}/{2[tex]\pi[/tex]r}


The Attempt at a Solution


I calculated the force acting on each metal rod to be 0.0036 N. The 2 metal rods repel each other since the current flowing through them is in opposite directions.

Now, my question is what is the resultant force acting on each spring? Is it 0.0012N or 0.0012 x 2 = 0.0024 N since there are 2 forces acting on each spring ; pulling each spring from the 2 ends ?

Thanks for your help!
 
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see this similar post: https://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-85739.html

It will actually just be 1xForce, look at it from the perspective of one of the rods. The rod is being pushed away by F Newtons, so, for equilibrium the spring must be pulling back with -F Newtons, and that -F comes from the extension of the spring... so the spring must be only extended by F, not 2xF. Thats pretty confusing, but does it make sense?
 
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zhermes said:
see this similar post: https://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-85739.html

It will actually just be 1xForce, look at it from the perspective of one of the rods. The rod is being pushed away by F Newtons, so, for equilibrium the spring must be pulling back with -F Newtons, and that -F comes from the extension of the spring... so the spring must be only extended by F, not 2xF. Thats pretty confusing, but does it make sense?

Actually it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for pointing this out to me. :smile:
 

Related to Resultant Force Acting On Springs : Confused

1. What is the resultant force acting on springs?

The resultant force acting on springs is the sum of all the individual forces acting on the spring. This includes external forces such as weight and applied forces, as well as internal forces within the spring itself.

2. How is the resultant force calculated for a spring system?

The resultant force can be calculated using the equation F = kx, where F is the resultant force, k is the spring constant, and x is the displacement of the spring from its equilibrium position. This equation is based on Hooke's Law, which states that the force applied to a spring is directly proportional to its displacement.

3. What is the relationship between the resultant force and the displacement of a spring?

The resultant force and displacement of a spring have a direct relationship. As the displacement of the spring increases, the resultant force acting on the spring also increases. This relationship is described by Hooke's Law, which states that the force applied to a spring is directly proportional to its displacement.

4. How does the spring constant affect the resultant force?

The spring constant, represented by the letter k, is a measure of the stiffness of a spring. A higher spring constant means that the spring is stiffer, and therefore the resultant force acting on the spring will also be higher for a given displacement.

5. What are some real-life applications of understanding the resultant force acting on springs?

Understanding the resultant force acting on springs is important in various fields, including engineering, physics, and mechanics. It is used in designing and analyzing structures that use springs, such as shock absorbers, suspension systems, and door hinges. It is also important in understanding the behavior of materials under different forces, and in predicting the motion of objects attached to springs.

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