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I'm doing a science fair project to research which type of metal foil is 'best' to use the Biefeld-Brown effect on, looking at the consistency and height with which it is lifted off the ground.
And no one will sell me these metals. A high school student is not allowed to be looking into buying pieces of silver, osmium, and zinc foils. It's just too ridiculous, apparently. So my help is a strange kind of help.
I do not need any set type of metal. Silver, gold, or osmium would be wonderful, but not necessary. I simply need five different types of metal. One sheet of foil for each type of metal (five sheets per metal is preferable, but seeing as I have not found any of them, I will settle for one sheet) at 2.5" by 5". Any bendable gauge will work, as long as all metals are of the same gauge.
I have contacted every single metal company on this list
http://metals.about.com/od/foil/Foil_Suppliers.htm
by email or by phone. Two of them have responded. One told me 'no' - They sell only in bulk quantities and can't spare me any, apparently. The other told me no after I asked about prices for silver, and hung up when I tried to explain that it wasn't necessary that I have silver.
First help:
I understand how to produce the effect, but now I've got to write an essay about 'everything known about your project, and why what you are doing is new for it's research.' Here are the websites I've used when trying to understand the effect:
http://montalk.net/science/84/the-biefeld-brown-effect
http://www.qualight.com/portal.htm/brown/
http://jnaudin.free.fr/index.htm
http://www.blazelabs.com/index.htm
http://arxiv.org/
-This website-
Second help:
Anyone have a place where I could buy this foil, or have any helpful ideas for getting people to take me seriously? (I tried getting my dad to talk to them. Does not work - he starts yelling.)
I'm doing a science fair project to research which type of metal foil is 'best' to use the Biefeld-Brown effect on, looking at the consistency and height with which it is lifted off the ground.
And no one will sell me these metals. A high school student is not allowed to be looking into buying pieces of silver, osmium, and zinc foils. It's just too ridiculous, apparently. So my help is a strange kind of help.
I do not need any set type of metal. Silver, gold, or osmium would be wonderful, but not necessary. I simply need five different types of metal. One sheet of foil for each type of metal (five sheets per metal is preferable, but seeing as I have not found any of them, I will settle for one sheet) at 2.5" by 5". Any bendable gauge will work, as long as all metals are of the same gauge.
I have contacted every single metal company on this list
http://metals.about.com/od/foil/Foil_Suppliers.htm
by email or by phone. Two of them have responded. One told me 'no' - They sell only in bulk quantities and can't spare me any, apparently. The other told me no after I asked about prices for silver, and hung up when I tried to explain that it wasn't necessary that I have silver.
First help:
I understand how to produce the effect, but now I've got to write an essay about 'everything known about your project, and why what you are doing is new for it's research.' Here are the websites I've used when trying to understand the effect:
http://montalk.net/science/84/the-biefeld-brown-effect
http://www.qualight.com/portal.htm/brown/
http://jnaudin.free.fr/index.htm
http://www.blazelabs.com/index.htm
http://arxiv.org/
-This website-
Second help:
Anyone have a place where I could buy this foil, or have any helpful ideas for getting people to take me seriously? (I tried getting my dad to talk to them. Does not work - he starts yelling.)
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