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schwarzchildradius
Were the Bush claims of WMD the result of deliberate fabrications of reality high up in the Bush 'cabal,' or were they based on shoddy work by the CIA and buttressed by Rumsfeld's assumptions?
I do not see why would a person want to participate in thisOriginally posted by schwarzchildradius
Were the Bush claims of WMD the result of deliberate fabrications of reality high up in the Bush 'cabal,' or were they based on shoddy work by the CIA and buttressed by Rumsfeld's assumptions?
You're right, I thought about that a little later after posting.. if it should have 3 options - 1)lies, 2)mistakes, 3)everything Bush said is factually true, then the 3rd option is not as rigorous as the 1&2, because it has no possibility of being correct. Unless you're talking about a parallel universe or sth.I do not see why would a person want to participate in this poll as long as it includes only the above two answers...
And what, pray tell, does that fact have to do with Saddam and WMD? Misdirection?Originally posted by schwarzchildradius
Okay, Russ, you word the 3rd option. Keep in mind that US soldiers are dying every day in Iraq.
Originally posted by schwarzchildradius
But the nuclear weapons Bush spoke of never existed. The US soldiers are doing an excellent job in Iraq, given their predicament of having only a skeleton crew, abandoned by the air force and Navy, and being given an assignment of indeterminate length in a hostile country. How dare Bush and his apologists justify the continued loss of US soldiers' lives by instituting no less than a police state in Iraq. Let's look at how moral and honorable the Russians are compared to Bush.
If there was any talk of this then it probably regardedOriginally posted by kat
I don't remember Bush ever saying that nuclear weapons actually existed, I remember them speaking about thinking they had acquired some equipment that would help in developing and were attempting to gather materials TO develop nuclear weapons...can you give me a link, quote, something that shows them stating they existed? I can't believe I would have missed that...
Originally posted by drag
If there was any talk of this then it probably regarded
nuclear materials like readioactive waste and so on.
Such materials were in fact found, or to be precise - what
was left of them after the local Iraqi population stole
most of them, unaware of the danger. These could, amongst other
sources, be the remains of the Iraqi nuclear plant that was bombed
by Israel. Also, these could, amongst other thing's, have found
their way into the hands of terrorists like the Al-Qaeda training camps that were at the north of Iraq and then could've been
used to attack targets with dirty nuclear bombs in dense
population centers around the world. (Not that making
a dirty bomb is such a complex or difficult task for a
terrorist organization of this scale.)
Peace and long life.
And the thousands of other sites as well (not to mention the museums...).Originally posted by Zero
Funny...we knew this site existed, and yet no troops were assigned to secure the nuclear materials.
Originally posted by Zero
Are you claiming that a nuclear plant wasn't worth securing for months, and that troops should have had to stumble across it? You really can't be serious! Nuclear sites should have been a #1 priority, for obvious reasons...that is, if Bush ever really thought they had a nuclear program, which is becoming less probable daily.
The fence and 12-foot concrete wall around the three storage buildings for radioactive material had huge gaps, and U.S. Marines found the main gate open when they arrived April 7.
MIGHT indicate that items may have been removed prior to the military guards leaving and the civilian guards taking over guard duties.Iraqi soldiers guarding Tuwaitha left on March 10, before the war started, and civilian guards abandoned the site March 20, the day before American ground forces entered Iraq from Kuwait
Originally posted by kat
Months?
I would think that this:
MIGHT indicate that items may have been removed prior to the military guards leaving and the civilian guards taking over guard duties.
http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/special_reports/iraq/story/909154p-6331478c.html
That might have been justification for war, in 199043: The International Atomic Energy Agency confirmed in the 1990s that Saddam Hussein had an advanced nuclear weapons development program, had a design for a nuclear weapon and was working on five different methods of enriching uranium for a bomb.
That is a full of sh1t statement.43: The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.
as is that, those tubes were for rocket fuel, and they knew itOur intelligence sources tell us that he has attempted to purchase high strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production.
No, there is no concrete evidence to suggest that the Bush Administration knowingly and intentionally lied about the presence of WMDs in Iraq. However, there were misleading statements made by top officials and intelligence failures that contributed to the belief that Iraq possessed WMDs.
The main evidence presented by the Bush Administration was the testimony of Iraqi defectors and intelligence reports indicating the presence of WMDs. Additionally, the administration relied on the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate which stated with high confidence that Iraq had active WMD programs.
No, while the presence of WMDs was a major factor in the decision to go to war with Iraq, it was not the only factor. The Bush Administration also cited the need to remove a dictator and promote democracy in the region as reasons for the invasion.
Yes, there were several mistakes made by the Bush Administration in their claims about WMDs. They relied on unreliable sources and disregarded contradictory evidence. The administration also exaggerated the threat posed by Iraq's WMD programs.
No actual WMDs were found in Iraq after the invasion. However, some chemical weapons were discovered, but they were old, degraded, and not usable as weapons. The lack of WMDs in Iraq has been widely viewed as a major failure of the intelligence community and the Bush Administration.