Relation between force couple and Newton's third law

In summary, the forces in a couple do not constitute an action-reaction pair. There are tests that can be used to determine whether two forces constitute an action-reaction pair, and if they don't, the forces are not an action-reaction pair.
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After being through with Newton's 3rd law of action reaction pairs, there arise a doubt regarding the categorization of force couple (related to torque) of being or NOT being an example of action reaction pairs.
 
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Not.
 
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Can you briefly explain?
 
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Action-reaction pairs have the same line of action.
 
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Got it, thanks.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Action-reaction pairs have the same line of action.
That's the strong form of Newton's third law. The weak form does not require that condition. It merely requires that action-reaction pairs be equal but opposite.

However, even in the context of the weak form of Newton's third law, the forces in a couple do NOT constitute an action-reaction pair. There's another very important part of Newton's third law that applies in both the weak and strong forms of the law: The forces in the action-reaction pair operate on two different objects. In the case of the question posed in the opening post, the two forces are acting on but one object, so they are not an action-reaction pair.

Below are some simple tests to determine whether two forces constitute an action-reaction pair:
  1. Are the forces equal in magnitude but opposite in direction?
    If they aren't, the forces are not an action-reaction pair.
  2. Do the forces act on two different objects?
    If both forces act on the same object they are not an action-reaction pair.
  3. Are the two objects responsible for the forces?
    In other words, object A must be responsible the force acting on object B, and object B must be responsible for the force acting on object A. If this is not the case, the forces in question do not constitute an action-reaction pair.
  4. Is it the same force?
    If not, the forces do not constitute an action-reaction pair. For example, the reaction to gravitation is gravitation and the reaction to the Coulomb force is the Coulomb force. The action-reaction pair of forces are caused by a single interaction between pairs of objects.

Consider a book sitting on a table in a vacuum chamber at the South pole. The forces on the book are the downward force of gravitation toward the Earth as a whole and the upward normal force exerted by the table. While these are equal but opposite forces (so they pass test #1), they do not constitute an action-reaction pair. These forces fail tests #2 and #4. Both forces act on the book, and the underlying causes of these forces are very different. The third law counterparts to these two forces are the gravitational force the book exerts on the Earth and the normal force the book exerts on the table.
 
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Related to Relation between force couple and Newton's third law

1. What is a force couple?

A force couple is a pair of forces that act on an object in opposite directions, causing the object to rotate around its center of mass. The forces in a force couple must be equal in magnitude and opposite in direction, but do not necessarily have to be applied at the same point on the object.

2. How is a force couple different from a single force?

A single force applies an unbalanced force on an object, causing it to accelerate in the direction of the force. In contrast, a force couple creates a rotational force that causes an object to rotate without changing its overall motion.

3. What is Newton's third law?

Newton's third law states that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. This means that when two objects interact, the forces they exert on each other are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction.

4. How does Newton's third law relate to force couples?

In a force couple, the two forces are equal and opposite in direction, meaning that they follow Newton's third law. This law explains why an object experiences a rotational force when two equal and opposite forces are applied to it.

5. Can force couples exist without following Newton's third law?

No, according to Newton's third law, all forces must have an equal and opposite reaction. Therefore, a force couple cannot exist without following this law.

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