Reconciliation of Maxwell's Equations with Relativity

In summary, according to Maxwell, the rate of change of the E field with respect to space must be equal and opposite to the rate of change of the B field with respect to time. So, the driver sees light of higher frequency as he goes faster, and thus greater rate of change of E with respect to space; therefore, I would expect him to also see a greater rate of change of B with respect to time. However, if B is changing faster with respect to time, doesn't this contradict the idea that the observer sees things around him happening slower in time?
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Usaf Moji
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Let's say you're in a very fast car that can accelerate from zero to, eventually, 0.7c. I understand that as the car moves faster and faster, the driver will observe the light that hits him in the face to be of higher and higher frequency. This seems consistent with things becoming narrower in the direction of travel. But it seems inconsistent with things appearing to happen more slowly in time.
According to Maxwell, the rate of change of the E field with respect to space must be equal and opposite to the rate of change of the B field with respect to time. So, the driver sees light of higher frequency as he goes faster, and thus greater rate of change of E with respect to space; therefore, I would expect him to also see a greater rate of change of B with respect to time.

But if B is changing faster with respect to time, doesn't this contradict the idea that the observer sees things around him happening slower in time?

What am I missing here?
 
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So, the driver sees light of higher frequency as he goes faster, and thus greater rate of change of E with respect to space; therefore, I would expect him to also see a greater rate of change of B with respect to time.
Your expectation is unfounded. The equation of a plane EM wave traveling in the z direction can be written

[tex]E_x = E_{0x}cos( \omega t + kz)[/tex] for the electric part

[tex]B_y = B_{0y}cos( \omega t + kz)[/tex] for the magnetic part.

If you receive at a boosted source, the frequency changes for both identically.
 
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Usaf Moji said:
But if B is changing faster with respect to time, doesn't this contradict the idea that the observer sees things around him happening slower in time?

What am I missing here?
Not sure why you're picking on B. The same considerations would apply to E and it didn't seem to bother you that the rate of change of that field appeared faster.

In any case, the relativistic Doppler effect has two elements: the standard increase in frequency due to the frequency source approaching the observer (as in sound) and a decrease in frequency due to time dilation. The first effect is always greater than the second, at least for the longitudinal Doppler effect. See: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/relativ/reldop2.html#c1"

[Mentz114 beat me to it! :wink:]
 
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Ok, but what I meant was, that for a Maxwell EM wave, the following conditions are true:
[tex]\frac{\partial{E}}{\partial{z}}[/tex] = - [tex]\frac{\partial{B}}{\partial{t}}[/tex]

and

[tex]\frac{\partial{B}}{\partial{z}}[/tex] = - [tex]\epsilon_{o}\mu_{o}\frac{\partial{E}}{\partial{t}}[/tex]

where z is the spatial direction of propagation, and t is time.

So, my point was, where the frequency of light increases, the rate of change of both the E and B fields with respect to space should increase, as expected.

But the (magnitude of the) rate of change of both the E and B fields with respect to time should also increase to satisfy Maxwell - but if this happens, things would seem to be happening faster in time (time contraction) rather than time dilation.

So does this mean that the effects of space contraction would cancel the effects of time dilation - i.e. that if left to relativity alone, without resort to doppler, the wavelength of the light wouldn't seem to change at all? Ugg, so confused!
 
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Usaf,

I can't understand your problem, sorry.

I think if this equation is boosted ( actually the source and/or receiver is boosted ) in the z direction)

[tex]E_x = E_{0x}cos( \omega t + kz)[/tex]

it will go to

[tex]E_x = E_{0x}cos( \gamma \omega t + \gamma kz)[/tex]

so the velocity

[tex] \frac{\omega}{k} \rightarrow \frac{\gamma \omega}{\gamma k}[/tex]

remains constant ( k has dimension reciprocal length ).

This doesn't look right, maybe an expert can help.

M
 
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You are treating [tex]E[/tex] and [tex]B[/tex] as scalar quantities. Perhaps you should treat them as components of a tensor, keeping in mind that they themselves transform into each other under Lorentz transformations.
 
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My post above is naive.

To boost a light source we have to write the plane wave as a wave vector and apply a Lorentz boost. I did the calculation, and then found it is nicely laid out here -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_vector

The wave vector for a light plane wave moving in the x-direction is ( all vectors transposed to save space)

[tex] \left( \frac{\omega}{c}, k_x, 0, 0 \right)[/tex]

Boosted in the x direction this gives -

[tex]\left( \gamma \left( \frac{\omega}{c}-\beta k_x\right), \gamma\left( k_x-\beta\frac{\omega}{c}\right), 0, 0 \right)[/tex]

and if we let

[tex]\frac{\omega'}{c} \equiv \gamma \left( \frac{\omega}{c}-\beta k_x\right)[/tex]

then with [tex]c=\frac{\omega}{k}[/tex]

[tex]\omega' = \gamma\left(\omega - v_xk\right) = \omega\gamma\left( 1 - \beta)[/tex]

as expected.
 
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What are Maxwell's Equations?

Maxwell's Equations are a set of four equations that describe the relationship between electric and magnetic fields. They were developed by James Clerk Maxwell in the 19th century and are fundamental to the study of electromagnetism.

What is Relativity?

Relativity is a theory developed by Albert Einstein in the early 20th century that explains the relationship between space and time. It is divided into two parts: special relativity, which deals with objects moving at constant velocities, and general relativity, which deals with the effects of gravity on objects.

How do Maxwell's Equations relate to Relativity?

Maxwell's Equations were developed before the theory of relativity, but they are consistent with both special and general relativity. In fact, Einstein used Maxwell's Equations as a starting point for his theory of general relativity.

What is the problem with reconciling Maxwell's Equations with Relativity?

The problem arises when trying to apply Maxwell's Equations to objects moving at high speeds or in the presence of strong gravitational fields. This can lead to inconsistencies and contradictions with the principles of relativity.

How is the reconciliation of Maxwell's Equations with Relativity achieved?

The reconciliation is achieved through the use of mathematical transformations, such as Lorentz transformations, that account for the effects of relativity on the behavior of electromagnetic fields. These transformations allow for the consistent application of Maxwell's Equations in all reference frames, including those in which objects are moving at high speeds or in strong gravitational fields.

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