Reasons why horizontal sync on LCD is erratic

In summary: That was a summary of the conversation. In summary, Dave found a DVD player headunit in the desert and it had a broken screen. He replaced the two caps and found that the unit powers on, but the horizontal sync is random. He also cleaned the unit and found that the CD drive was dusty and sandy. He replaced two electriically-based capacitors and found that the unit powers on and the touch screen glass is broken. However, the horizontal sync is random when he tries to align the display driver board differently. Dave is trying to replace the capacitors and clean the printed circuit board.
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Hello,I recently found, yes found a DVD player headunit for a car in the desert. The touch portion of the screen, which was glass, was shattered, but the screen itself was intact. (More or less, save some scratches and the erosion of the matte finish in some areas)

I have gone through the unit, and found two power coupling capacitors to have burst. I cleaned out what I assume to be a years worth of dust and cobwebs from inside the unit. I used an automotive strength cleaner (As I frequently do with electronics) and a plastic bristle brush to clean off the garbage from the two main boards, and the other smaller boards. I replaced the burst capacitors with higher voltage rated units and have found that the unit actually powers on.

However, the horizontal sync is random.

It seems if I tap the screen driver board, or align it a different way, it has an effect on the randomness or "H hold".

I truly appreciate any ideas on this.

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Thank you!
Dave
 
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Your picture actually shows a vertical sync problem.

If you could identify the vertical sync section (maybe by the markings on the board), you could test components randomly in that area.

If it had burst electrolytics in it, it may have had reverse voltage applied to it. So, other smaller electrolytics could be faulty, too. They would be a good first choice anyway.
 
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My fault, horizontal sync.

I have a theory, and that is that the caps blew, rendering it nonfunctional, at which point they discarded it. My only supporting evidence is the fact that there was a CD in the cd drive. I though that it was possible that when the power died the cd was essentially stuck inside.

I have done some research on the ICs, and I believe the one for display is called the ESS Vibratto ES6168FA, but I could be wrong.

The position of the display board in relation to the ribbon cable definitely has an effect, and when I get the position right, the display will stop refreshing, and slowly turn white.
 
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I got it. I took the ribbon out from the other connection, cleaned it with brake cleaner, and used a wire brush to clean the contacts. I also used a small utility knife to go in between the leads in the ICs and a spray of brake cleaner, too. It did the trick.

Now, to clean out the dvd player drive. It is really a mess, dented in a little and something is binding somewhere.

It's too bad they shattered the touch glass.

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ICs tend to fail catastrophically but electros and printed circuit board tracks give the sort of problem you are seeing. Your device doesn't have much wrong with it.

I'd go over the printed circuit with a small stiff brush and whatever cleaner you have available. Then rinse and let it dry before applying power. Try flexing the board slightly to see if this affects the sync problem.

Then start replacing electrilytic capacitors. These are fairly cheap and they do deteriorate with age.
This is a gamble and you might manage a cure or you might throw the whole thing in the bin.

I guess it isn't worth getting it fixed commercially?
 
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To be honest, I was taking my street cruiser offroad and exploring a new section of desert when I came across the ubiquitous "dump" of garbage, usually electronic, in the desert. What caught my eye was the headunit. I thought there was no way, so I looked closer, had the lcd been cracked I'd have left it, but it was intact.

Honestly, if I cannot fix this unit myself I really don't have the money to have it fixed.

I have emailed a company who sells it, and the manufacturer to see if I can get a replacement for the touch screen glass. It does have remote capability, so if I got a hold of the remote, then I might be able to control it that way.

The LCD screen itself has some pretty deep scratches, and the matte antiglare finish has corroded away in some spots.

I have the CD drive mechanism 30% apart, which was so dusty and sandy it didn't budge, but now it's pretty free after a dose of brake cleaner, and slick 50 lube.

It was like this, if the caps didn't fix it I'd toss it, because honestly, it was just rained on and snowed on several times in the past few days alone. I replaced two caps and traced the +, and it gave me a three tone beep, I was pretty stoked, and when I saw the screen come on I was really stoked. At the very least it can be a monitor, it has a slew of inputs and outs in the back of it.

Anyone know where I can get a 6.5" diagonal piece of touch glass? All I know is that the ribbon cable for the touch glass is a 4 conductor. Hopefully I can source a replacement from the manufacturer (In hong kong, but who knows) or an outlet who sells the unit.
Dave
 

Related to Reasons why horizontal sync on LCD is erratic

1. What causes horizontal sync to be erratic on LCD screens?

There are several possible reasons for this issue, such as faulty hardware, outdated or incompatible drivers, and electrical interference.

2. Can a damaged LCD screen cause horizontal sync problems?

Yes, physical damage to the LCD screen, such as cracks or dead pixels, can disrupt the synchronization process and result in erratic horizontal sync.

3. How can I troubleshoot and fix horizontal sync issues on my LCD screen?

First, try updating your graphics card drivers and adjusting the resolution and refresh rate settings. If that doesn't work, check for any physical damage to the screen and try using a different cable or port. If the problem persists, it may be a hardware issue that requires professional repair.

4. Is there a way to prevent or minimize horizontal sync problems on LCD screens?

One preventive measure is to use a high-quality surge protector to protect your LCD screen from electrical interference. It's also important to handle your screen with care and avoid exposing it to extreme temperatures or moisture.

5. Are there any software solutions for fixing horizontal sync issues on LCD screens?

Some software programs, such as monitor calibration tools, can help identify and fix certain types of horizontal sync problems. However, if the issue is caused by hardware or compatibility issues, software solutions may not be effective.

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