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In summary, the conversation discusses a question about condensing an ideal gas and checking if it is a maximum or a local minimum. It is suggested to use derivative test and work with non-SI units to get a less messy answer.
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Homework Statement
We condense some ideal gas from a volume of 30 liters and a pressure of 1 atmosphere to a volume of 10 liters and a pressure of 2 atmospheres. What is the volume of the gas when its temperature is maximum?
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pV=nRT
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Looks ok, except that you did not check that it is a maximum. Could be a local minimum, in which case either the starting or finishing temperature would be the max.
 
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MatinSAR said:
Homework Statement:: We condense some ideal gas
Presumably you mean 'compress'. 'Condense' means something different!

In addition to what @haruspex already said...

It's not necessary to use SI units here. You can work in 'atm' and 'lit' (though 'lit' is not a common abbreviation for litres) and you will get the same answer. It's less messy.

For example, the gradient of the line can immediately be written as ##\frac {-1}{20}## (corresponding to units of atm/lit).

Try it – and check you understand why it works here.
 
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haruspex said:
Looks ok, except that you did not check that it is a maximum. Could be a local minimum, in which case either the starting or finishing temperature would be the max.
I will use derivative test to prove it.
Thanks alot for your help.
Steve4Physics said:
Presumably you mean 'compress'. 'Condense' means something different!
Sorry! I haven't spoken English for a long time and I didn't remember the correct word so I used google translate ...
Steve4Physics said:
It's not necessary to use SI units here. You can work in 'atm' and 'lit' (though 'lit' is not a common abbreviation for litres) and you will get the same answer. It's less messy.
Yes, thanks, I use SI units when I'm not sure if it's correct to use non-SI units.
Steve4Physics said:
For example, the gradient of the line can immediately be written as −120 (corresponding to units of atm/lit).

Try it – and check you understand why it works here.
Thanks alot for your help ...
I will try this and I hope I will get similar result.
 
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