Question regarding electrical potential energy required to assemble a system

In summary, the total energy required to assemble a system of four charges at the corners of a square with alternating signs is calculated by summing the potential energy between each pair of charges only once, multiplied by Coulomb's constant. The formula for the energy is U = Ke ((q1q2/r12) + (q1q3/r13) + (q1q4/r14) + (q2q3/r23) + (q2q4/r24) + (q3q4/r34)). It is important to correctly multiply the charges, including the units, to get an accurate result. A negative energy means that negative work is done to assemble the system and prevent the charges from moving towards each other
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Homework Statement


Four charges, q1=+q, q2=-q, q3=+q and q4=*q are at the corners of a square with the side a=7.5 cm. (In such way that if one travels along the perimeter of the square, the charge signs are alternating.) If q=3.0 μC, what is the total energy required to assemble this system of charges? Comment on the sign of your answer.


Homework Equations


U = Ke ((q1q2/r12) + (q1q3/r13) + (q1q4/r14) + (q2q3/r23) and so forth)


The Attempt at a Solution


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe I simply have to sum up the energy between the points one by one and multiply by Coulomb's constant, and it will give me the total potential energy?
 
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You got it.
 
  • #3
Doc Al said:
You got it.

Thanks!

My question is: Would I need to calculate individually q1q4/r14 and q4q1/r41, or since they are the same I only do it once?
 
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Parad0x88 said:
My question is: Would I need to calculate individually q1q4/r14 and q4q1/r41, or since they are the same I only do it once?
Count the potential energy between each pair of charges only once.
 
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Ok, thank you!

And last but not least, if my energy is negative (I got -2,788,518 joules) that basically means that negative work is done when assembling the system to avoid that the charges will move toward each other?

And do you mind verifying my formula to make sure I didn't do anything wrong? I got an obscurely high number as an answer:

So like I had said: U = Ke ((q1q2/r12) + (q1q3/r13) + (q1q4/r14) + (q2q3/r23) + (q2q4/r24) + (q3q4/r34))

r12, r14, r23 and r34 are 0.075m
r13 and r24 are: √(0.0752 + 0.0752) = 0.106m

So I get:

U = Ke ((3 * -3/.075) + (3 * 3/.106) + (3 * -3/.075) + (-3 * 3/0.075) + (-3 * -3/.106) + (3 * -3/.075))

U = Ke ((4X (-9/.075)) + (2X (9/.106))

U = Ke ((4 X -120) + (2 X 84.91))

U = Ke(-310.18 μC2/m)

U = 8.99 X 109 Nm22/C2 X -310.18 μC2/m

U = -2,788,518.2 Nm, or joules
 
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Parad0x88 said:
And last but not least, if my energy is negative (I got -2,788,518 joules) that basically means that negative work is done when assembling the system to avoid that the charges will move toward each other?
Right.

And do you mind verifying my formula to make sure I didn't do anything wrong? I got an obscurely high number as an answer:

So like I had said: U = Ke ((q1q2/r12) + (q1q3/r13) + (q1q4/r14) + (q2q3/r23) + (q2q4/r24) + (q3q4/r34))
Good.

r12, r14, r23 and r34 are 0.075m
r13 and r24 are: √(0.0752 + 0.0752) = 0.106m
Good.

I think you're failing to multiply the charges correctly and thus missing a factor of 10-6. For example:
q1*q2 = (3 x 10-6)*(-3 x 10-6) = -9 x 10-12
 
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Doc Al said:
Right.


Good.


Good.

I think you're failing to multiply the charges correctly and thus missing a factor of 10-6. For example:
q1*q2 = (3 x 10-6)*(-3 x 10-6) = 9 x 10-12

Ah you're right! Rookie mistake of wanting to save some time and not writing the units hahah

Thank you very much!
 

Related to Question regarding electrical potential energy required to assemble a system

1. What is electrical potential energy?

Electrical potential energy is the energy that is stored in an object due to its position in an electric field. It is the energy that can be converted into kinetic energy when the object moves in the electric field.

2. How is electrical potential energy calculated?

The electrical potential energy of a system is calculated by multiplying the charge of the object by the electric potential difference between the two points in the electric field where the object is located.

3. What factors affect the amount of electrical potential energy required to assemble a system?

The amount of electrical potential energy required to assemble a system depends on the charge of the objects in the system, the distance between them, and the strength of the electric field.

4. Why is the electrical potential energy of a system important?

The electrical potential energy of a system is important because it determines the behavior of the objects in the system. It determines how they will interact with each other and whether they will attract or repel each other.

5. How can the electrical potential energy of a system be changed?

The electrical potential energy of a system can be changed by altering the charge of the objects in the system, changing the distance between them, or changing the strength of the electric field. It can also be changed by adding or removing other objects with electrical charge to the system.

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