Quantum physics - probability density,

In summary: Thanks for your helpIn summary, the conversation discusses a particle described by a wave function on an interval [-L/2, L/2]. The probability and current density of the particle are calculated, and the probability of finding the particle on different intervals is determined. The question of expressing the current density in terms of the probability density and velocity is raised, which is solved using the De Broglie relation and classical mechanics. The phase and group velocities are also mentioned as related to the wave function.
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Jillds
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Homework Statement


consider a particle at an interval ##[-L/2, L/2]##, described by the wave function ## \psi (x,t)= \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}}e^{i(kx-wt)}##
a) Calculate the probability density ##\rho (x,t) ## and the current density ## j(x,t)## of the particle
b) How can you express ## j(x,t)## as a function of ##\rho (x,t) ## and the velocity ## v##?
c) What is de probability to find the particle at the intervals ##[-L/2, L/2]##, ##[-L/2, 0]## and ##[0, L/4]##

(note: not sure whether 'current density' is the proper translation of the term I have in Dutch for j(x,t).

Homework Equations


##\rho (x,t) = \psi^* (x,t) \psi (x,t)##
## j(x,t) = - \frac{i \hbar}{2m} \big[ \psi^* (x,t) \frac{\partial}{\partial x}\psi (x,t) - \psi (x,t) \frac{\partial}{\partial x}\psi^* (x,t) \big]##
##P(\Omega)= \int_{\Omega} |\psi (x,t)|^2 dx##
no clue on the relevant equation for b and c

The Attempt at a Solution


a) ##\rho (x,t) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}} e^{-i(kx-wt)} . \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}}e^{i(kx-wt)} = \frac{1}{L} e^{-i(kx-wt)+i(kx-wt)} = \frac{1}{L} e^0 = \frac{1}{L} ##
## j(x,t) = - \frac{i \hbar}{2m} \big[ \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}} e^{-i(kx-wt)} \frac{\partial}{\partial x}\frac{1}{\sqrt{L}}e^{i(kx-wt)} - \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}} e^{i(kx-wt)} \frac{\partial}{\partial x}\frac{1}{\sqrt{L}}e^{-i(kx-wt)} \big]##
## = - \frac{i \hbar}{2m} \big[ \frac{1}{L} e^{-i(kx-wt)} e^{i(kx-wt)} ik - \frac{1}{L} e^{-i(kx-wt)} e^{i(kx-wt)} (-ik) \big]##
## = - \frac{i \hbar}{2m} \big[ \frac{ik}{L} + \frac{ik}{L} \big]##
## = - \frac{i \hbar}{m} \frac{ik}{L} = \frac{\hbar k}{m L}##

b) I was not sure how to interprete the question, express first ## j(x,t)## as a function of ##\rho (x,t) ## AND afterwards in relation to velocity, OR all at the same time?

I have suggested for myself at least that ## j(x,t) = \frac{\hbar k}{m} \rho (x,t) ##
I have no idea how the velocity comes into that.

c) For the last part I have

## \frac{1}{L} \int_{-L/2}^{L/2} dx = \frac{x}{L}|_{-L/2}^{L/2} = 2L/2L =1##
Since the second interval is half of the first interval the probability should be 1/2, and checking the integral that is what I got. Same logic applies for the third given interval, which is a 4th of the first, and the probability is 1/4.

Can someone please review what I did solve, and whether I applied the correct logic or proper techniques. And can someone help me out with the velocity part?
 
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Jillds said:
b) I was not sure how to interprete the question, express first j(x,t) as a function of ρ(x,t) AND afterwards in relation to velocity, OR all at the same time?
There is just one equation that combines them and has a nice expression. Your wave function describes a moving wave. What is its (phase) velocity?

(a) and (c) look fine.
 
  • #3
I know there a continuity equation: ## \frac{\partial}{\partial t} \rho(x,t) + \frac{\partial}{\partial x} j(x,t) = 0 ##. Is that the one you mean?

ETA: correction on the continuity equation per mfb's following comment
 
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That continuity equation does not look right (edit: the edited version is correct now), but that is not what I meant.
What is the phase velocity v of your wave? It is the same as in the classical case.
 
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phase velocity : ##v_p = \frac{\lambda}{T} = \lambda f = \frac{\omega}{k} ##
group velocity : ##v_g = \frac{\partial \omega}{\partial k} ##
 
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I know I could rewrite the wave in its classic notation as ## \psi (x,t) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}} sin (kx - wt) ##
I know the phase velocity is ## v_p = \lambda f = \frac{\omega}{k}##
But I don't yet see how this relates to the probability density and j(x,t)... Help very much appreciated.
 
  • #7
Found the solution:
De Broglie: ##p = \hbar k##
Classical mechanics: ## p=mv##

Hence, ## j(x,t) = \frac{\hbar k}{mL} = \frac{p}{mL} = \frac{v}{L} = v \rho(x,t)##

So, I started out correct by replacing the ## \frac{1}{L}## with the ## \rho##, but failed to recognize De Broglie relation and to apply Classical mechanics in that.
 

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