[Q]Question about harmonic oscilator

In summary, the professor introduced the formula for the energy of a harmonic oscillator-time-independent equation, and discussed the asymptotic and forbidden domains. He also explained how to approximate the second differential of the wave function for domains that are far away from the potential. Finally, he gave a question for the class.
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good_phy
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Hi, Finally! I reached harmonic oscilator! Congratulation!

Most of all QM textbook introduced this formula :

Time independent energy eigenstate equation is

[tex] ( - \frac{\hbar^2}{2m} \frac{\partial}{\partial x) + \frac{Kx^2}{2} )\varphi = E\varphi [/tex]

(1)[itex] \varphi_{xx} = -k^2 \varphi [/itex]

[itex] \frac{\hbar^2k^2(x)}{2m} = E - \frac{K}{2}x^2 > 0 [/itex]

We focused classically forbidden domain [itex] x^2 > x_{o}^2, E < \frac{Kx^2}{2} [/itex]

In this case, kinetic energy is negative, so [itex] \varphi_{xx} = k'^2 \varphi [/itex] [itex] \frac{\hbar^2k'^2}{2m} = \frac{K}{2}x^2 - E > 0 [/itex]

For asymptotic domain, [itex] Kx^2/2 >> E [/itex]

(2) [itex] \varphi_{xx} = \frac{mK}{\hbar^2}\varphi = \beta^4x^2\varphi [/itex] where subscript means 2nd differential, [itex] \beta^2 = \frac{mw_{o}}{\hbar} [/itex]

We let (3) [itex] \epsilon = \beta x[/itex]

(2) appears as (4) [itex] \varphi_{\epsilon\epsilon} = \epsilon^2 \varphi [/itex]

If [itex] \epsilon >>1 [/itex] then (2) is approximated to

(5) [itex] \varphi \approx Aexp(\pm\frac{\epsilon^2}{2}) = Aexp(\pm\frac{(\beta x)^2}{2}) [/itex]

I have a question. Liboff said (2) become (4) by introducing (3). But If (3) is right, I thought (4) should be [itex] \varphi_{\epsilon\epsilon} = \beta^2\epsilon^2\varphi [/itex]. Is it right?

And I don't know how to derive (5) from (4). Please lead me.
 
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good_phy said:
(2) [itex] \varphi_{xx} = \frac{mK}{\hbar^2}\varphi = \beta^4x^2\varphi [/itex] where subscript means 2nd differential, [itex] \beta^2 = \frac{mw_{o}}{\hbar} [/itex]

We let (3) [itex] \epsilon = \beta x[/itex]

(2) appears as (4) [itex] \varphi_{\epsilon\epsilon} = \epsilon^2 \varphi [/itex]

If [itex] \epsilon >>1 [/itex] then (2) is approximated to

(5) [itex] \varphi \approx Aexp(\pm\frac{\epsilon^2}{2}) = Aexp(\pm\frac{(\beta x)^2}{2}) [/itex]

I have a question. Liboff said (2) become (4) by introducing (3). But If (3) is right, I thought (4) should be [itex] \varphi_{\epsilon\epsilon} = \beta^2\epsilon^2\varphi [/itex]. Is it right?

And I don't know how to derive (5) from (4). Please lead me.

I don't have Liboff, but since you make substitution of variables from x to beta*epsilon, the second derivative on phi w.r.t to x will change..

[tex]\frac{d^2\phi}{dx^2} \rightarrow \beta ^2 \frac{d^2\phi}{d\epsilon^2}[/tex] (chain rule of calculus)

so it should be: [tex] \phi_{\epsilon\epsilon} = \epsilon^2 \phi [/tex]
 
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Thank you for your help! I'm very pleased with you. But Could you tell me how to apply chain rule of calculus on that formula? I just subsitute [itex] x = \beta\epsilon [/itex] into the x of dominator to get your formula. is it right procedure?

What is more, Can you give me a answer of second question?
 
  • #4
[tex]\frac{d\phi}{dx} = \frac{d\phi}{d\epsilon}\frac{d\epsilon}{dx}[/tex]

what the second question is about is that that "far" away from the potential, (classical allowed region) wave function must go down as an exponential.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:HarmOsziFunktionen.jpg
 
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