Q about State of Hydrogen Atoms

In summary, "The Universe" series discusses the use of scram jets and the prevalence of hydrogen in the universe. This led to the discovery of different states of hydrogen atoms on Wikipedia, specifically the H-alpha state. The article explains that due to the high energy required to excite a hydrogen atom's electron from n = 1 to n = 3, the atom is more likely to be ionized and then recombine with a proton to form a new hydrogen atom. This process causes the atom to emit photons as it cascades to the ground state. This leads to the question of whether hydrogen atoms in space without the protection of an atmosphere or magnetic field are constantly transitioning between H1-H3 states, and if a super-dense hydrogen
  • #1
senseit
2
0
I was watching "The Universe" series talking about scram jets, and how hydrogen is one of the most common elements in the universe. After some searching I found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-alpha" about different states of hydrogen atoms. Which made me ask what I thought to be an obvious question..

It says http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-alpha" : "Since it takes nearly as much energy to excite the hydrogen atom's electron from n = 1 to n = 3 as it does to ionize the hydrogen atom, the probability of the electron being excited to n = 3 without being removed from the atom is very small. Instead, after being ionized, the electron and proton recombine to form a new hydrogen atom. In the new atom, the electron may begin in any energy level, and subsequently cascades to the ground state (n = 1), emitting photons with each transition."

Does this mean that, hydrogen atoms in space without the protection of an atmosphere or magnetic field are in a constant state of flux between H1-H3 states? If you put a snow globe of super-dense hydrogen gas in space.. will it glow as atoms flux between h1->h3 & h3->h1 releasing photons? This would also not use up hydrogen, just use it as a medium to produce lower energy photons from higher energy gamma, ultra violet radiation, correct?

(this is assuming of course that the necessary high energy UV is available to ionize the hydrogen(from the sun))
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
After a bit more searching, I found out that hydrogen does indeed do this naturally in space and is the cause for plasma surrounding neutron stars. Very cool stuff. It would basically be the equivalent of an aurora in space.

attachment.php?attachmentid=20995&d=1254976194.jpg
 

Attachments

  • eagle_nebula_300x300.jpg
    eagle_nebula_300x300.jpg
    15.2 KB · Views: 528
Last edited:
  • #3


I can confirm that hydrogen is indeed one of the most abundant elements in the universe. The different states of hydrogen atoms, as described in the Wikipedia article on H-alpha, are a result of the electron transitions between energy levels within the atom. This process is known as atomic excitation and de-excitation.

To answer your question, yes, in space without the protection of an atmosphere or magnetic field, hydrogen atoms are in a constant state of flux between H1-H3 states. This is because there is no external force to stabilize the electron within the atom. However, the probability of an electron being excited from n=1 to n=3 without being removed from the atom is very small, as mentioned in the article.

In regards to your snow globe scenario, it is possible that the hydrogen gas would emit photons as the atoms transition between energy levels. However, this would depend on the availability of high energy UV radiation to ionize the hydrogen atoms in the first place. Without this source of energy, the atoms would remain in their ground state and there would be no photon emission.

It is also important to note that the constant flux between energy states of hydrogen atoms does not necessarily mean that the atoms are being used up. The atoms are simply transitioning between levels, releasing photons in the process. The overall amount of hydrogen would remain constant.

I hope this helps to clarify your question about the state of hydrogen atoms in space. The behavior of atoms at this level is complex and constantly changing, and further research and observation is needed to fully understand it.
 

Related to Q about State of Hydrogen Atoms

1. What is the state of hydrogen atoms?

The state of hydrogen atoms refers to the physical form of hydrogen atoms at a given temperature and pressure. Hydrogen atoms can exist in three main states: solid, liquid, and gas.

2. How does the state of hydrogen atoms affect its properties?

The state of hydrogen atoms can greatly impact its properties, such as density, melting and boiling point, and reactivity. In the solid state, hydrogen atoms are tightly packed and have low energy, making them less reactive. In the liquid state, they have more freedom to move and have higher energy, making them more reactive. In the gas state, hydrogen atoms have the highest energy and are highly reactive.

3. What factors determine the state of hydrogen atoms?

The state of hydrogen atoms is primarily determined by temperature and pressure. At low temperatures and high pressures, hydrogen atoms will exist in the solid state. As temperature and pressure increase, hydrogen atoms will transition to the liquid state and eventually the gas state.

4. Can hydrogen atoms exist in other states besides solid, liquid, and gas?

Yes, under extreme conditions, hydrogen atoms can also exist in a plasma state, where electrons are stripped from the atoms. This state is commonly found in stars and other high-energy environments.

5. How is the state of hydrogen atoms studied and measured?

The state of hydrogen atoms can be studied and measured using various techniques such as spectroscopy, X-ray diffraction, and neutron scattering. These techniques allow scientists to observe and analyze the physical properties of hydrogen atoms in different states.

Similar threads

  • Sticky
  • Atomic and Condensed Matter
Replies
2
Views
7K
  • Atomic and Condensed Matter
Replies
10
Views
1K
  • Atomic and Condensed Matter
Replies
3
Views
1K
  • Atomic and Condensed Matter
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • Atomic and Condensed Matter
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • Atomic and Condensed Matter
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • Atomic and Condensed Matter
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • Atomic and Condensed Matter
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
9
Views
2K
Replies
22
Views
1K
Back
Top