Pseudo forces and negative acceleration

In summary: Yes! If a and a0 are in the same direction, and we assumed that they are opposite in direction one of them would come out to be negative and correct us. Just put in the signs of the forces correctly.
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EddiePhys
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations


F = ma

The Attempt at a Solution


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I already have the solution, however, I have a few questions.
1)In the solution they have taken m2's acceleration relative to the ground to be a0-a downwards.
However, if a>a0, then wouldn't the acceleration relative to the ground end up being being upwards? In that case, how is assuming the acceleration downwards and being equal to a0-a correct?

2) If viewed from the accelerating frame of the movable pulley,

pseudo force upwards = m2a0
therefore, the eq of motion for m2: T-m2g+m2a0 = m2a
=> T-m2g = m2(a-a0)

Why does the pseudo force method lead to an answer that is "biased" towards m2 accelerating upwards relative to the ground? i.e assuming m2 will be accelerating upwards from the ground frame?
 
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Here we have just assumed a>a0. If our assumption is wrong, the acceleration will become negative and tell us that our assumption is opposite to what actually is happening. You can assume m3 to be accelerating upwards, you will get the same answer but with different signs.
 
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AbhinavJ said:
Here we have just assumed a>a0. If our assumption is wrong, the acceleration will become negative and tell us that our assumption is opposite to what actually is happening. You can assume m3 to be accelerating upwards, you will get the same answer but with different signs.

The answer in the end comes up to a0 = g/(1+m1/4(1/m2 + 1/m3)). Since a has been eliminated from the equation, would this still be right if a>a0?
 
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EddiePhys said:
The answer in the end comes up to a0 = g/(1+m1/4(1/m2 + 1/m3)). Since a has been eliminated from the equation, would this still be right if a>a0?
Yes! If a and a0 are in the same direction, and we assumed that they are opposite in direction one of them would come out to be negative and correct us. Just put in the signs of the forces correctly.
 

Related to Pseudo forces and negative acceleration

1. What is a pseudo force and how does it differ from a real force?

A pseudo force, also known as a fictitious force, is a force that appears to act on an object in a non-inertial reference frame. It is not a real force caused by an interaction between two objects, but rather an apparent force that arises due to the acceleration of the reference frame. Unlike real forces, pseudo forces do not have a physical origin and do not transfer energy to or from an object.

2. What is negative acceleration and how does it relate to pseudo forces?

Negative acceleration, also known as deceleration, is the rate at which an object's velocity decreases. It is the opposite of acceleration, which is the rate at which an object's velocity increases. Pseudo forces can often cause negative acceleration in non-inertial reference frames, as they can change the direction and magnitude of an object's velocity.

3. Can pseudo forces be observed or measured?

No, pseudo forces cannot be observed or measured directly. They are only apparent forces that arise in non-inertial reference frames, and do not have a physical existence. However, their effects can be observed and measured through the acceleration and motion of objects in these reference frames.

4. How can I distinguish between a pseudo force and a real force?

A real force is caused by an interaction between two objects, while a pseudo force is only apparent and does not have a physical origin. One way to distinguish between the two is by considering the reference frame in which the force is observed. If the force is observed in a non-inertial reference frame, it is likely a pseudo force.

5. What are some examples of pseudo forces?

Some common examples of pseudo forces include the centrifugal force experienced in a rotating reference frame, the Coriolis force experienced by objects moving in the Earth's rotating reference frame, and the centrifugal force experienced by objects moving in a circular motion. These forces are not caused by real interactions between objects, but rather by the acceleration of the reference frame.

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