Proving r*r=q in S, a Ring with Identity

In summary: Hence, $r\ast r = 1$, so that $r\ast r = q$, as desired. In summary, we deduce that $r*r=q$ from the given equation $r*(r+q)=r*r+r*q$ by using the fact that $p$ is the identity for $+$ and $q$ is the identity for $*$. We also use the fact that $S$ is closed under $+$ and the property of abelian groups to show that $r+q=p$, which leads to $r*r=q$.
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Let S={p,q,r} and S=(S,+,*) a ring with identity. Let p be the identity for + and q the identity for *. Use the equation
r*(r+q)=r*r+r*q to deduce that r*r=q.

Attempt of a solution
r*r=r*(r+q)- r*q
=r*r+r*q - r*q
But I'm not finding a clever way to deduce what is required.
Any type of help would be appreciated.
 
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Since S is closed under $+$, $r+q$ is either $p$, $q$, or $r$. If $r+q = q$ or $r+q = r$, then we get $r = p$ or $q = p$, which are both false. So $r+q = p$. Substituting $p$ for $r+q$ in the equation

$r * (r + q) = r * r + r * q$

gives

$r * p = r * r + r * q$.

Since $p$ is the additive identity in S, $r * p = p$; since $q$ is the multiplicative identity, $r * q = r$. Therefore

$p = r * r + r$.

Adding $q$ to both sides results in $q = r * r + p$, or, $q = r * r$.
 
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"Since p is the additive identity in S, r∗p=p"
Can you please explain why. I understand if p is the identity then r+p=r but not that statement.
 
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It's because $r * p = r * (p - p) = r * p - r * p = p$.
 
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A basic fact about rings, is that under addition, they form an abelian group.

In this case, the abelian group has order 3, so either of $q$ or $r$ is a generator.

Since the map $a \mapsto -a$ is a group isomorphism for any abelian group (in particular it maps a generator to a generator), it must be the case that either:

$-q = r$, or $-q = q$.

If $-q = q$, then $q + q = p$, in which case $q$ has order 2. But 2 does not divide 3, so this violates Lagrange.

Therefore, $-q = r$, that is $r + q = p$.

So from our given equation:

$r\ast(r + q) = r\ast r + r\ast q$ we get:

$r \ast p = r\ast r + r \ast q$ (from the above)

$r \ast p = r\ast r + r$ (since $q$ is the multiplicative identity).

Now, to see that $r \ast p = p$, note that:

$r \ast p = r\ast(p + p)$ (since $p + p = p$, since it is the additive group identity)

$= r \ast p + r\ast p$. Hence:

$p = -(r \ast p) + r\ast p = -(r\ast p) + r\ast p + r\ast p = p + r\ast p = r\ast p$.

Thus (continuing our first argument):

$p = r\ast r + r$, so that $r\ast r$ is the additive inverse of $r = -q$.

So $r\ast r = -(-q) = q$ (in a group, the inverse of an inverse is the original element).

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The above is tedious, and complicated by notation. In point of fact, there is no reason not to denote $p$ by $0$, and $q$ by $1$. Thus:

$S = \{0,1,r\}$.

It is plain to see we must have $r = 1 + 1$. Now we can just calculate:

$(1+1)(1+1) = (1+1)+(1+1) = [(1+1)+1] + 1 = 0 + 1 = 1$

because $(1+1)+1 = 3\cdot 1 = 0$ (the "3rd power" of 1, written additively) by Lagrange.
 

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1. What is the definition of a ring with identity?

A ring with identity is a mathematical structure that consists of a set, an addition operation, and a multiplication operation. The set must be closed under both operations, and the operations must be associative, commutative, and have an identity element. In addition, the multiplication operation must also be distributive over addition.

2. How is r*r=q proven in a ring with identity?

To prove r*r=q in a ring with identity, we must show that the elements r and q satisfy the definition of multiplication in a ring. This means that they must be closed under multiplication, associative, and distributive over addition. Additionally, we must also show that the element q is the identity element for multiplication.

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Proving r*r=q in a ring with identity is important because it demonstrates the fundamental properties of a ring. It shows that the elements in the ring behave in a predictable and consistent way, and it also allows us to make deductions and solve equations within the ring.

4. What are the key steps in proving r*r=q in a ring with identity?

The key steps in proving r*r=q in a ring with identity include showing that the elements r and q are closed under multiplication, associative, and distributive over addition. Additionally, we must show that the element q is the identity element for multiplication. This typically involves using algebraic manipulation and the properties of a ring to simplify and deduce the desired result.

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