Proving Efficiency | How to Prove Question on Heat Engines

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In summary, the conversation is about proving a question related to heat engines and refrigerators. The question states that if a heat engine has an efficiency better than the ideal value of 4.5, it can be connected to a Carnot refrigerator to create a refrigerator that requires no work input. The conversation also discusses the use of efficiency and coefficient of performance in this scenario, and suggests drawing a diagram to better understand the process.
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I'm having trouble with proving the following question. Can someone please help, please.

(1) Prove that if you had a heat engine whose efficiency was better than the ideal value (4.5) you could hook it up to an ordinary Carnot refrigerator to make a refrigeratior that requires no work input.


I know that efficency = 1-Qc/Qh and COP=1/(Qh/Qc - 1)but how do i prove the above question?
 
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Originally posted by jlmac2001
... if you had a heat engine whose efficiency was better than the ideal value (4.5) ...
Either I'm really ignorant of this thermo stuff, or you've gotten the wrong number for efficiency. I think it should always be less than unity.




Originally posted by jlmac2001
... you could hook it up to an ordinary Carnot refrigerator ...
My first step would be to draw a diagram. Make sure to include the hot and cold reservoirs and the directions of energy/heat flow. That should give a good picture of what's going on.
 
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To prove this question, we can use the concept of the second law of thermodynamics, which states that no heat engine can have an efficiency greater than that of a Carnot engine operating between the same temperature limits. This means that for a heat engine with an efficiency greater than the ideal value of 4.5, its efficiency must be greater than the efficiency of a Carnot engine operating between the same temperature limits.

Let's assume that the heat engine in question has an efficiency of x, which is greater than 4.5, and let's also assume that the Carnot engine has an efficiency of y. According to the second law of thermodynamics, we know that x > y.

Now, if we hook up the heat engine with efficiency x to an ordinary Carnot refrigerator, the heat rejected by the heat engine (Qc) would be equal to the heat absorbed by the refrigerator (Qh). This is because the heat engine is operating at a higher efficiency, so it would reject less heat than the Carnot engine.

Using the equations you mentioned, we can write the efficiency of the refrigerator as y = 1 - Qc/Qh. Substituting Qc = Qh, we get y = 1 - 1 = 0. This means that the efficiency of the refrigerator is 0, which implies that no work input is required for the refrigerator to operate.

Therefore, by hooking up the heat engine with efficiency x to an ordinary Carnot refrigerator, we have created a refrigerator that requires no work input, thus proving the statement.
 

Related to Proving Efficiency | How to Prove Question on Heat Engines

1. How do you define efficiency in a heat engine?

Efficiency in a heat engine is defined as the ratio of the work output to the energy input. In other words, it is a measure of how much of the energy put into the system is converted into useful work.

2. What is the equation for calculating efficiency in a heat engine?

The equation for efficiency in a heat engine is: efficiency = (work output / energy input) x 100%. This is usually represented as a percentage.

3. How can you prove the efficiency of a heat engine?

The efficiency of a heat engine can be proven through experimentation and data analysis. The basic method is to measure the energy input and work output of the engine and then calculate the efficiency using the equation mentioned above. This process can be repeated multiple times to ensure accuracy.

4. What factors can affect the efficiency of a heat engine?

There are several factors that can affect the efficiency of a heat engine, including the design and construction of the engine, the type and quality of the fuel used, and the operating conditions (such as temperature and pressure). Friction and other forms of energy loss within the engine can also impact its efficiency.

5. How can the efficiency of a heat engine be improved?

The efficiency of a heat engine can be improved through various methods, such as optimizing the design and construction of the engine, using higher quality fuel, and maintaining proper operating conditions. Reducing friction and energy losses within the engine can also help improve its efficiency. Additionally, incorporating newer technologies and techniques, such as heat recovery systems, can also increase the efficiency of a heat engine.

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