Problem with Sines on both sides

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In summary: Clearly we are on the same wavelength :)In summary, to solve for the unknown angle ∅ in the equation 1.33 sin 25.0° = 1.50 sin ∅, you need to use an inverse sine to isolate the variable. This equation is derived from Snell's law in introductory physics, and the range of the angle ∅ is limited to -π/2 ≤ ∅ ≤ π/2.
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PerryKid
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Homework Statement



Solve for ∅

1.33 sin 25.0° = 1.50 sin ∅

Homework Equations



Law of Sines?

The Attempt at a Solution



I did this:

([STRIKE]1.33[/STRIKE] sin 25.0°)/[STRIKE]1.33[/STRIKE] = (1.50 sin ∅)/1.33
sin 25.0° = (1.50 sin ∅)/1.33

but I'm solving for ∅, so I modified a little:

(1.33 sin 25.0°)/1.50 = ([STRIKE]1.50 [/STRIKE]sin ∅)/[STRIKE]1.50[/STRIKE]
sin ∅ = (1.33 sin 25.0°)/1.50

I have a basic understanding of trigonometry (SOH CAH TOA) but I'm not too sure how to do this. Can I use an inverse sine to figure? Does the law of sines apply?

There is no triangle.
 
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The law of sines is irrelevant to solving for the unknown angle phi. If you want to solve for phi, then, yes, you must use an inverse sine in your calculations.
 
  • #3
You have/i] to use an inverse sign.
1st solve for ##\sin\phi## and then take the inverse sine of both sides.
 
  • #4
Simon Bridge said:
You have/i] to use an inverse sign.
1st solve for ##\sin\phi## and then take the inverse sine of both sides.


So will this solve for ∅?

[STRIKE]sin-1[/STRIKE]([STRIKE]sin[/STRIKE] ∅) = sin-1((1.33 sin 25.0°)/1.50)
∅ = sin-1((1.33 sin 25.0°)/1.50)
 
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Absolutely: ##\sin^{-1}(\sin\phi )=\phi## by definition, so if ##\sin\phi = x## then ##\phi=\sin^{-1}x## where ##x## stands for everything on the RHS.

Welcome to PF BTW :)
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Absolutely: ##\sin^{-1}(\sin\phi )=\phi## by definition, so if ##\sin\phi = x## then ##\phi=\sin^{-1}x## where ##x## stands for everything on the RHS.

Welcome to PF BTW :)

Actually, ##\sin^{-1}(\sin\phi )=\phi## is only true for

##\displaystyle \ \ -\,\frac{\pi}{2}\le\phi\le \frac{\pi}{2}\ .##
 
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Yah well - that would be the rest of the definition ... the geometry here is Snell's law.
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Yah well - that would be the rest of the definition ... the geometry here is Snell's law.
What you say makes perfect sense !

It would have helped if OP had mentioned what he/she was applying the "Law of Sines" to.
 
  • #9
"Law of sines" is usually derived on a scalene triangle - so the angle range is 0-pi.
The other clue is that this is "introductory physics homework"... where else would this structure come up?

If this question were posted in an algebra, or signals processing (say), context, I'd have had to bring up the periodicity next. No need to provide everything in one go - one step at a time huh? ;)

Nice heads up though.
 

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