Calculating Lifting Force and Wing Size for an Airplane - Need Help!

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In summary, the conversation is about calculating the lifting force generated by a wing and determining the size of the wing needed to support a 3000 lb aircraft. There is confusion about the pressure and velocity on the top and bottom of the wing, and it is noted that the approach used for solving this problem is not entirely accurate.
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Hi everyone…I have a airplane question:

Q: The profile of a particular airplane wing is such that the distance air has to move to traverse the top of the wing is 20% greater than the distance the air must travel to traverse the bottom of the wing. (This shape is an “airfoil”.) If air is flowing steadily across the wing, then the air molecules that part ways (one to go over the top of the wing and one to go across the bottom of the wing) at the leading edge of the wing must come back together again at the trailing edge.

Calculate the lifting force generated per square foot if the wing is moving through the air at 200 mph (airspeed measured across the bottom of the wing). What size wing (in square feet) is needed to support a 3000 lb aircraft?

A: Bottom: P+½pv^2= Top: P+½v^2 because the pgy^2 cancel out
Substitute for p= (F*d)/vol

Top: v=107.28m/s; 9.8*1361.8kg=13346N; 3000lb=1361.8kg
Bottom: v=89.4m/s; F=13346N; M=13346N

13345.6N*d/vol + (.5*1361.5kg*(89.34m/s^)2)/vol= 13346N*1.2d/vol +(.5*1361.8kg*(107.28m/s)^2)/vol

-2.6696N*d = 2394479Nm
d=-896m

I think that I am on the wrong track because I came out with a negative distance. Can anyone help?

Thanks in advance for your assistance!

Signed,

Totally Lost.
 
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Well, for one, you set the pressure on the underside of the wing to equal mg/A (where A is the area of the wing), and you set the pressure on the upper side of the wing equal to 1.2mg/A, for some reason I don't understand. (The pressure on the upper side of the wing is not 1.2 times the pressure on the underside; in fact, the pressure on the underside is greater, which is why the wing has lift.)

You have,

Ptop + 1/2 ρ v2top = Pbot + 1/2 ρ v2bot

The net lifting force per unit area is,

Fnet/A = ΔP = Pbot - Ptop

and to support the aircraft, this must be at least mg/A.

There is no need to solve for the thickness of the wing (d).

P.S. Be careful with units; they want you to convert back to force per square foot instead of square meter ...
 
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Also, be aware that despite what your professor or (I hope not) textbook say, what you are solving for here is NOT the way that Bernoulli works.

Fluids are fluids, and as such, do not need to meet up at the end. In fact, they usually do not. They also do not follow a constant (or even linearly varying) velocity distribution - not even to a first approximation.

The problem you're solving is a bogus model.
 

1. How does an airplane fly?

An airplane flies due to the principles of lift and thrust. The shape of the wings, along with the forward motion of the airplane, creates an area of low pressure on top of the wings and high pressure below, resulting in lift. Thrust is generated by the engines, which push the airplane forward.

2. What causes turbulence during a flight?

Turbulence is caused by changes in air pressure and wind currents in the atmosphere. This can be due to weather patterns, jet streams, or the wake of another airplane. Pilots do their best to avoid areas of turbulence, but it is a natural occurrence during flights.

3. How do pilots navigate an airplane?

Pilots use a combination of instruments, such as altimeters, airspeed indicators, and navigation systems, to navigate an airplane. They also use visual cues, such as landmarks and other aircraft, to maintain their course. In addition, pilots receive guidance from air traffic controllers to ensure safe navigation during flight.

4. What happens if there is an emergency during a flight?

In the event of an emergency, pilots are trained to handle various scenarios and have emergency procedures in place. This can include emergency landings, diverting to a nearby airport, or activating emergency equipment on the airplane. Flight attendants are also trained to assist passengers in case of an emergency.

5. How do airplanes maintain altitude during a flight?

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