Addressing Illegal Immigration: Solutions Beyond Border Control

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In summary, the conversation discusses the issue of Mexican-American relations and the impact of illegal immigration on the economy. The participants express various opinions, with some suggesting that Mexican immigrants are hardworking and just looking for job opportunities, while others believe that tighter border security and helping Mexico's economy could be potential solutions. The discussion also touches on the recall of Governor Davis and the role of politicians in addressing these issues.
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What do the intelligent readers of PF think about Mexican-American relations. Let's face the fact. The real reason why Californians are ousting Gov. Davis is because of their views on how the termination of Proposition 187 affected the economy of their state.

From my experiences, Mexican immigrants are hard working people who just want to come to America and take jobs that Americans don't want. They value jobs because in their country there are none. I don't think it's so unreasonable to think that Mexicans would try to sneak into our country for the only chance they have at improving their financial situation.

I actually almost like Larry Flynt's proposal to tighten security at the Mexican border while giving amnesty to those illegal immigrants already living in California. However, I think such a measure would only provide a temporary solution.

The real problem we Americans face is that we haven't been helping our southernly neighbors enough. There have been many attempts at establishing NAFTA over the years, but such efforts have always met with failure. I believe this failure is due to the inability of politicians to cooperate. I honestly think we (America) could help Mexico by simply saying fvck Malaysia, and all those other ungrateful southeast Asian countries to whom we give labor industry, and taking such businesses to Mexico where it would be appreciated.

Why did we screw ourselves by establishing most of our electronics labor industries overseas when it could have been done in our own backyards?

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Great way to start a thread, eNtRopY...
 
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Well gee, once you take out all the crap its not an unreasonable post.

I personally don't think the recall vote has anything specifically to do with Mexico, its just politicians being politicians. Economic problems are often blamed on immigrants but that's just because they are a convenient scapegoat. Certianly though, illegal immigration is a real problem.
 
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Originally posted by russ_watters
Certianly though, illegal immigration is a real problem.

Well, you can't deny the fact that many Californians were pissed off about the termination of Proposition 187 by Gray Davis. Sure, illegal immigration is a real problem, but simply strengthening the border patrol isn't going to solve this problem. We, the United States, should be thinking about how to help our neighbors by bringing more factory labor into their country.

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1. What is the history behind Mexican-American relations?

The history of Mexican-American relations dates back to the early 1800s when Mexico gained independence from Spain. The two countries have had a complex relationship, with periods of cooperation and conflict. The Mexican-American War in 1846-1848 resulted in the US gaining significant territory from Mexico. In the early 20th century, tensions arose due to immigration and labor issues. In recent years, there has been a focus on trade and economic ties between the two countries.

2. How do cultural differences impact Mexican-American relations?

Cultural differences play a significant role in Mexican-American relations. While both countries have a shared history and language, there are also significant differences in customs, traditions, and values. These differences can lead to misunderstandings and conflicts, but they can also create opportunities for cultural exchange and collaboration.

3. What are the current economic ties between Mexico and the US?

The US and Mexico have a strong economic relationship, with Mexico being the US's third-largest trading partner. The two countries have a free trade agreement, the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which has been in place since 1994. In recent years, there have been discussions about renegotiating NAFTA, and in 2018, a new trade agreement, the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), was signed.

4. How does immigration affect Mexican-American relations?

Immigration has been a contentious issue in Mexican-American relations. The US has a large population of Mexican immigrants, both documented and undocumented. This has led to political debates and policies regarding immigration, such as the construction of a border wall between the two countries. However, immigration also plays a significant role in the US economy, with many Mexican immigrants working in various industries.

5. What are some current issues in Mexican-American relations?

Some current issues in Mexican-American relations include trade, immigration, and border security. The US and Mexico have had disagreements over trade policies and tariffs, and there have been tensions regarding the handling of immigration and border security. In recent years, there has been a focus on addressing these issues through diplomatic means and finding mutually beneficial solutions.

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