Potential magnetic field lines and Stokes theorem....

In summary, a potential magnetic field has no curl. According to the "curl theorem" or stokes theorem, a vector field with no curl does not close. Yet, Maxwell's equation tell us we shall not have magnetic monopoles, so the loops have to close... ? What am I missing to remove this apparent paradox of a no-curl magnetic field with unclosed field lines on the one hand (Stokes) and magnetic field lines which have to close somewhere on the other hand (Maxwell)? Do we allow this like in classical optics where two parallel lines cross only at infinity? So the no-curl loops actually close at infinity?
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A potential magnetic field has no curl. According to the "curl theorem" or stokes theorem, a vector field with no curl does not close. Yet, Maxwell's equation tell us we shall not have magnetic monopoles, so the loops have to close... ? What am I missing to remove this apparent paradox of a no-curl magnetic field with unclosed field lines on the one hand (Stokes) and magnetic field lines which have to close somewhere on the other hand (Maxwell)? Do we allow this like in classical optics where two parallel lines cross only at infinity? So the no-curl loops actually close at infinity?

Thanks
 
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To what field are you referring?

If you are referring to the magnetic scalar potential then the curl for that is not defined, as it is not a vector field. So Stokes' theorem does not apply.

If you are referring to the magnetic vector potential then from where did you get the statement that the field has no curl? My EM is very rusty but according to wikipedia the curl of the mag vector potential field is the observed mag field, which is not zero.

Perhaps you are thinking of gauge adjustments, whereby one can add a curl-free vector field to the mag vector potential field and still generate the same mag field. But adding curl-free components doesn't change the curl of the mag vector potential field, which remains nonzero. I see no reason why the field lines of a gauge field cannot close. Their closing would not (I think) imply anything about magnetic monopoles.
 
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The magnetic field is never rotation free everywhere (except it's 0), because according to the Ampere-Maxwell Law you have (in vacuo and in Heaviside Lorentz units)
$$\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{B}-\frac{1}{c} \partial_c=\frac{1}{c} \vec{j}$$
and according to Gauss's Law for the matgnetic field
$$\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{B}=0.$$
So it's a solenoidal field, and its natural potential is a vector potential
$$\vec{B}=\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{A},$$
which is defined by ##\vec{B}## up to an arbitrary gradient field (gauge invariance).

However, locally in regions, where ##\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{B}=0##, you can as well describe it via a scalar potential, which then is necessarily a harmonic potential, i.e., fulfilling
$$\vec{\nabla} \cdot \vec{B}=-\Delta \Phi_{M}=0.$$
As I said, this can never be globally true, and usually ##\Phi_{M}## is not unique, because usually you have something like current loops involved, i.e., the region where ##\vec{B}## is curl free, is not simply connected.
 

Related to Potential magnetic field lines and Stokes theorem....

1. What is a potential magnetic field?

A potential magnetic field is a representation of the magnetic field in a given region of space in terms of a scalar potential, rather than a vector field. It describes the strength and direction of the magnetic field at any point in space.

2. How are potential magnetic field lines related to the magnetic field?

Potential magnetic field lines are a visual representation of the direction and strength of the magnetic field. The lines are always perpendicular to the direction of the magnetic field and the density of the lines indicates the strength of the field.

3. What is the significance of Stokes theorem in relation to potential magnetic field lines?

Stokes theorem is a mathematical tool used to relate a surface integral to a line integral. In the context of potential magnetic field lines, it allows us to calculate the magnetic field at a point by integrating the field along a closed loop surrounding that point.

4. Can potential magnetic field lines be used to determine the strength of the magnetic field at a specific point?

Yes, potential magnetic field lines can be used to determine the strength of the magnetic field at a specific point by using the line integral method described by Stokes theorem. This involves integrating the field along a closed loop surrounding the point of interest.

5. How are potential magnetic field lines and electric field lines related?

Both potential magnetic field lines and electric field lines are representations of vector fields in terms of scalar potentials. They both show the direction and strength of the respective fields at any point in space. Additionally, the behavior of these lines in the presence of charges and currents can be described by similar mathematical equations.

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