Planck length - Greene versus classics

In summary, Brian Greene proposes in "The Elegant Universe" that the minimum size of massive particles is determined by the minimum size of the dimensions around which they are wound as strings in string theory. This is supported by the idea that probes have two modes, wound and unwound, with different energies, and that at the Planck length, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle works in reverse. This means that even if one were to put enough energy into a particle to create a new one or a black hole, the distance which can be measured would still be limited by the Planck length, making it the minimum size for massive particles.
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Planck length -- Greene versus classics

Brian Greene, in Chapter 10 of "The Elegant Universe", offers a sketch of string theory's version of why massive particles have a minimum size of the Planck length. I give my summary of the argument in the next paragraph, and the question in the following paragraph is based on this summary. If you are familiar with the argument, please correct my summary if it is faulty before answering the question.


(a) The massive particles are strings that are wound around small dimensions, and hence the minimum size of these particles is the minimum size of the dimension around which they wind.
(b) Probes (photons, etc.) have two modes: wound and unwound. They have two kinds of energy: vibrational and winding energies. The unwound ones have higher vibrational and lower winding energies; the wound ones have lower vibrational and higher winding energies. They come together in a particle as reciprocals of each other (when using natural units).
(c) The higher the vibrational energy, the smaller the distance which can be measured, by the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle; however, below the Planck length, the coordinate systems for the laws of Physics are inverted, so that the Planck distance becomes a maximum, and the relations using these distances remain isomorphic to the relations using the distances above the Planck distance.
(d) In any case, when one gets down to the Planck distance, it requires less energy to use probes with higher winding energies, so these are the natural probes to use. However, the more energy one uses for these probes, the less precision for the distance is possible, so that the Planck length once again becomes a minimum.

Now, these are interesting arguments, but given the classic arguments for the shielding of anything of the Planck length-- summarized nicely for example by John Baez in http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/lengths.html, that long before getting to that point one would be putting in enough energy to create new particles, losing the original target, or with even more energy one could create a black hole which, as a black hole, would shield all knowledge of the size of the original target, and then upon evaporation would also lose the original target -- isn't the argument (c) above irrelevant?
 
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No, the argument (c) is not irrelevant. While it is true that one could put enough energy into a particle to create a new particle or a black hole, this does not mean that the Planck length is not still a minimum size for the particle. In fact, the shielding of anything of the Planck length is exactly what is needed in order for the Planck length to be the minimum size for massive particles. The argument (c) is simply pointing out that at the Planck length, the Heisenberg uncertainty principle works in reverse: the higher the vibrational energy, the smaller the distance which can be measured. This means that even if one were to put enough energy into a particle to create a new one or a black hole, the distance which can be measured would still be limited by the Planck length. Thus, the Planck length remains the minimum size for massive particles.
 

Related to Planck length - Greene versus classics

1. What is Planck length and why is it significant?

Planck length is the smallest possible length that has any meaning in the universe according to modern theories of physics. It is approximately 1.6 x 10^-35 meters. This length is significant because it is believed to be the scale at which the structure of space-time becomes quantum in nature.

2. Who is Brian Greene and what is his contribution to the study of Planck length?

Brian Greene is a theoretical physicist and mathematician known for his contributions to string theory and the study of the fundamental nature of space and time. He is credited with popularizing the concept of Planck length and its significance in modern physics.

3. How does Greene's theory differ from classical theories regarding Planck length?

Classical theories, such as general relativity, do not take into account the quantum nature of space-time and therefore do not incorporate the concept of a minimum length. Greene's theory, on the other hand, incorporates the concept of Planck length as the smallest possible length scale in the universe.

4. Can Planck length be measured or observed?

No, Planck length is considered to be a fundamental constant and it is believed that it cannot be directly measured or observed. This is due to the fact that at this length scale, the laws of physics as we know them break down and quantum effects become dominant.

5. How does Planck length relate to other fundamental constants in physics?

Planck length is related to other fundamental constants such as the speed of light, Planck's constant, and the gravitational constant. In fact, it is derived from these constants and is often used in combination with them in various equations in theoretical physics.

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