Photons and zero chemical potential ?

In summary, the question is why the chemical potential of photons in a material cavity in equilibrium is zero, despite the fact that they can be easily created and destroyed. The comparison to hydrogen and oxygen atoms is not valid since they are not destroyed when forming a molecule. The special case of photons in thermal equilibrium with zero chemical potential is discussed in various studies, including F. Herrmann and P. Wurfel's article "Light with nonzero chemical potential" and V Badescu's study of time-dependent and steady-state statistics of photons.
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Consider a photon gas in equilibrium with a material cavity (something like a furnace). Why exacly the chemical potential of those photons is zero?

The usual handwaving argument is 'because photons are easily created and destroyed' whatever that means. Hydrogen and Oxygen are 'easily created and destroyed' too in the chemical reaction H2 + O2 = H2O but we don't set their chemical potential to zero.

So what is your explanation?
 
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smallphi said:
Consider a photon gas in equilibrium with a material cavity (something like a furnace). Why exacly the chemical potential of those photons is zero?

The usual handwaving argument is 'because photons are easily created and destroyed' whatever that means. Hydrogen and Oxygen are 'easily created and destroyed' too in the chemical reaction H2 + O2 = H2O but we don't set their chemical potential to zero.

So what is your explanation?

Your comparison here makes no sense. The oxygen and hydrogen atoms are NOT destroyed when they form a molecule. But the photon number is not a conserved number in such statistics.

Zz.
 
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Photons produced in photochemical reactions like in a light emitting diode don't have zero chemical potential. I am trying to understand why the handwaving 'argument' that photons are 'easily created and destroyed' doesn't work in that case. What is so special about the photon gas in thermal equilibrium that it is the only light with zero chemical potential.


References:

F. Herrmann, P. Wurfel, "Light with nonzero chemical potential", American Journal of Physics -- August 2005 -- Volume 73, Issue 8, pp. 717-721
http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet?prog=normal&id=AJPIAS000073000008000717000001&idtype=cvips&gifs=yes


Time-dependent and steady-state statistics of photons at nonzero chemical potential, V Badescu 1991 J. Phys.: Condens. Matter 3 6509-6521 http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0953-8984/3/33/025
 
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Related to Photons and zero chemical potential ?

1. What are photons?

Photons are particles of light that have zero mass and carry energy. They are the fundamental particles of electromagnetic radiation and are responsible for all forms of light, including visible light, radio waves, and X-rays.

2. How are photons produced?

Photons are produced by the movement of charged particles, such as electrons, within atoms. When these particles change energy levels, they emit photons as a form of radiation. Photons can also be produced through various physical processes, such as nuclear reactions and particle decays.

3. What is zero chemical potential?

Zero chemical potential refers to a state where there is no net flow of particles in or out of a system. In other words, the concentration of particles is equal on both sides, and there is no driving force for particles to move. This state is often associated with equilibrium and is an important concept in thermodynamics.

4. How are photons affected by zero chemical potential?

At zero chemical potential, photons are not affected by any external forces and behave independently of other particles. This means that their energy and momentum remain constant, and they do not interact with other particles in the system. However, they can still be absorbed or emitted by charged particles, which can affect their direction and intensity.

5. What are the applications of studying photons and zero chemical potential?

The study of photons and zero chemical potential is essential in many fields, including quantum mechanics, thermodynamics, and astrophysics. Understanding the behavior of photons can also lead to advancements in technologies such as solar cells, lasers, and telecommunications. Additionally, the concept of zero chemical potential is crucial in understanding phase transitions and the behavior of matter at different temperatures and pressures.

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