Pendulum of unknown length and unknown g, only period given

In summary, the conversation discusses the determination of the original length of a pendulum and whether the experiment was conducted on Earth. The period of the pendulum is given for two different lengths, and it is suggested to use the equation T=2pi(sqrt(l/g) to find the value of both g and l. This will provide two equations with two unknowns, allowing for the determination of the original length and the confirmation of whether the experiment was conducted on Earth.
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Homework Statement



Pendulum of unknown length, l, has period of 9.32 seconds. Length is increased by 1 metre, and time period increases to 9.734 seconds. Calculate original length of pendulum and determine whether the experiment was conducted on earth. Hint: g is not assumed to be 9.81 ms^-2, you must find both g & l

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The Attempt at a Solution



Really not sure where to start, due to the two unknowns!
 
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Can you express the period as function of g and l?
For both pendulum lengths, you get an equation, so you have two unknowns and two equations.
 
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mfb said:
Can you express the period as function of g and l?
For both pendulum lengths, you get an equation, so you have two unknowns and two equations.

T=2pi(sqrt(l/g) ?
 
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That is right, and it will help you.
 
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As a scientist, it is important to use scientific methods and principles to solve problems. In this case, we can use the equation for the period of a pendulum, T = 2π√(l/g), where T is the period, l is the length of the pendulum, and g is the acceleration due to gravity. We also know that the period, T, is directly proportional to the length, l, and inversely proportional to the acceleration due to gravity, g.

Using this information, we can set up two equations:

T = 2π√(l/g) and T' = 2π√((l+1)/g)

Where T is the original period (9.32 seconds) and T' is the new period (9.734 seconds).

We can then solve for g in both equations:

g = 4π²l/T² and g = 4π²(l+1)/T'²

Since both equations are equal to g, we can set them equal to each other and solve for l:

4π²l/T² = 4π²(l+1)/T'²

Simplifying, we get:

l/T² = (l+1)/T'²

Cross-multiplying, we get:

lT'² = (l+1)T²

Expanding, we get:

lT'² = lT² + T²

Subtracting lT² from both sides, we get:

lT'² - lT² = T²

Factoring out l, we get:

l(T'² - T²) = T²

Dividing both sides by (T'² - T²), we get:

l = T²/(T'² - T²)

Plugging in the given values for T and T', we get:

l = (9.32 seconds)²/((9.734 seconds)² - (9.32 seconds)²)

Solving this, we get:

l = 38.1 meters

Therefore, the original length of the pendulum is 38.1 meters. To determine if the experiment was conducted on Earth, we can compare the calculated value of g with the known value of g on Earth, which is approximately 9.81 m/s². If the calculated value of g is close to 9.81 m/s²,
 

Related to Pendulum of unknown length and unknown g, only period given

1. How do you calculate the length of the pendulum if the value of g is unknown?

The length of a pendulum can be calculated using the formula L = (T/(2π))² * g, where L is the length, T is the period, and g is the acceleration due to gravity. Since the value of g is unknown, the length cannot be accurately calculated.

2. Can the period of a pendulum with unknown length and g be measured?

Yes, the period of a pendulum can be measured by timing the number of swings it makes in a given amount of time. However, this measurement will not provide any information about the length or gravitational acceleration.

3. How does the period of a pendulum change if the length is doubled?

The period of a pendulum is directly proportional to the square root of its length. This means that if the length is doubled, the period will increase by a factor of √2 (approximately 1.41).

4. Is it possible to determine the value of g without knowing the length of the pendulum?

No, the value of g cannot be accurately determined without knowing the length of the pendulum. However, if the period is known, the value of g can be approximated using the formula g = (4π² * L) / T².

5. How does changing the mass of the pendulum affect its period?

The mass of a pendulum does not affect its period. As long as the length and gravitational acceleration remain constant, the period will also remain constant.

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