*Particles to biological cells?*

In summary, The process of Darwinian evolution is not based on physics and there is no real physics path into evolutionary development. Quarks and photons have not changed their properties since the time of the big bang and have little to do with the emergence of life. There is no consensus on how life starts and there is no way to observe or calculate the behavior of atoms in an evolving organism to predict evolution.
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Does anyone know where I can get information on how particles such and quarks/lepton that form atoms, atoms to molecules and molecules to cellular life.?

What area of physics is based on the area of study and can evolution of biological organism be traced?
 
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Any intro physics book with 1000 pages will give you the path from quarks to molecules, if you don't care about the math. From molecules to life you stop doing physics, and people who claim otherwise are selling snake oil.

Atoms don't evolve in the Darwinian sense. Molecules are already more problematic since some viruses are not much more then very large molecules.

There is a lot of theoretical work done in non equilibrium thermodynamics, but people who take this work as serious models for biological systems need to have their head examined.
 
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0xDEADBEEF said:
Molecules are already more problematic since some viruses are not much more then very large molecules.
Virus range from four proteins (themselves 'large' molecules) (10^6 Dalton) to more than a hundred proteins (10^8 Dalton). That they are arguably alive, even the smallest, makes them very much more than merely large molecules.

I note that phage T4 has a 1/300 DNA copy error rate(!) apropos a discussion elsewhere here.
 
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ok... I am thinking that there has to be a connection from quarks to molecules that forms biological life and from this initial step has to kick start the process of Darwinian selection.! Are you saying that since the big bang, that this was the process de novo?
 
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I am not sure if I know what you mean by "the process de novo".

Quarks have little to do with life. The universe of today is frozen into atoms if we would heat everything to temperatures and pressures of the big bang we would have the same quark soup again. We could go back and forth as we like. There is no Darwinian evolution in it.

There is no consensus on how life starts, or how to define it without pointing at things on Earth that are alive. But quarks have nothing to do with it. They just supply the atoms.
 
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0xDEADBEEF said:
But quarks have nothing to do with it. They just supply the atoms.

Maybe nothing obviously or intuitively or practically calculable, but if life is an emergent property, how can it have nothing at all to do with what it emerges from?
 
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To be more specific, can we observe and possibly calculate in any way how atoms behave in cell and make some predictions how they will change with an evolving organism? eg, The evolution of vision is the compound and compacting of light sensitive patch(opsin proteins). With this, Photons and the opsin protein symbiotically lived to form an eye? Can we connect the relationship between atoms that make up for example the opsin protein and the photon and observe the behaviour that results in Darwinian evolution?
 
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No, this cannot be calculated and won't be possible for a very very long time.
No, photons don't evolve or live in symbiosis.

There is no real physics path into evolutionary development. Please ask your questions in the Biology forum.
 
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So quarks are quarks, photons are photons and they have never changed their properties since the time of the big bang?
 
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Yes, no one has found evidence for the opposite.
 

Related to *Particles to biological cells?*

1. What are particles and how do they interact with biological cells?

Particles are tiny pieces of matter that can be either solid, liquid, or gas. They can interact with biological cells in various ways, such as binding to cell surface receptors, penetrating the cell membrane, or being engulfed by the cell through endocytosis. The interaction between particles and cells is important for various biological processes, including cell signaling, nutrient uptake, and immune response.

2. What is the size range of particles that can interact with biological cells?

The size range of particles that can interact with biological cells is quite broad, ranging from nanometers (10^-9 meters) to micrometers (10^-6 meters). This includes nanoparticles, which are commonly used in biomedical research and applications due to their small size and unique properties.

3. How can particles be used to deliver drugs or genetic material to cells?

Particles can be engineered to carry drugs or genetic material, such as DNA or RNA, to target specific cells and tissues in the body. This can be achieved by attaching specific ligands or antibodies to the surface of the particle, which can bind to receptors on the target cell and facilitate the delivery of the cargo. Alternatively, particles can be designed to release their cargo in response to certain stimuli, such as changes in pH or temperature, allowing for controlled and targeted drug delivery.

4. Can particles cause harm to biological cells?

While particles can be beneficial for delivering drugs or genetic material, they can also potentially cause harm to biological cells. Some particles, particularly those with sharp edges or toxic components, can damage the cell membrane and disrupt cellular functions. Additionally, particles can accumulate in certain tissues and organs, leading to potential long-term health effects. Therefore, careful consideration and regulation of particle use is necessary to ensure their safety.

5. What techniques are used to study the interaction between particles and biological cells?

There are various techniques used to study the interaction between particles and biological cells, including microscopy, flow cytometry, and spectroscopy. These techniques allow scientists to visualize and analyze how particles are taken up by cells, how they affect cellular processes, and how cells respond to their presence. Additionally, advanced imaging techniques, such as super-resolution microscopy, have enabled researchers to study these interactions at the nanoscale level.

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