Discover the Power of Quantum Haiku in the Sun's Proton-Proton Chain Reaction

In summary, the classical Japanese haiku form is 5-7-5, but there is a new form called "quantum haiku" which is 5-4-5. The sun's energy comes from a process called "proton-proton chain" which goes like this---it's a bit like a haiku. The process works in more massive stars, and by day pretty much all the light we get is proton-proton light, but in the night sky quite a lot isnt.
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the classical japanese haiku form is 5-7-5
we should invent a new form called "quantum haiku" which is 5-4-5 :wink:

the sun makes all its energy by a process called "proton-proton chain" which goes like this---it's a bit like a haiku

p + p ---> pn + positron + neutrino
pn + p ---> ppn + gamma
pn + pn ---> ppnn + p + p

This happens in the core of the sun, the central 20 percent or so.
Virtually all our energy, including that in Ben and Jerry's ice cream, comes from this three-line sequence of reactions. Notice the gamma-ray in the second line----it's the original sunlight.

All sunlight starts out as gamma (X-rays) at the core of the sun,
it just gets mellower as it percolates out to the surface, and like as not, the neutrino you see there is the missing solar neutrino that they just found the right number of after all.
In this style of writing, "p" means proton and "n" means neutron, so p represents a Hydrogen nucleus, pn stands for a Deuterium nucleus, ppn stands for a Helium-3 and ppnn for a Helium-4.
 
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the CNO process in more massive stars

Not all stars make their energy in the same way.
Stars of one solar mass or less are all doing the proton-proton chain---according to the revered haiku just mentioned

But in stars of two solar masses or more a faster CATALYZED fusion process predominates, called the "CNO process" which sounds faintly like a railroad back in the steam locomotive days.
And this process uses Carbon, Nitrogen, and Oxygen nuclei as catalysts----the protons stick to them and get fused and come off as helium: same result but it goes faster.

CNO only works in more massive stars because it needs a higher threshold temperature to get started.

So if you see Orion, off to the left about knee-high there is Sirius and the light coming to you from that star was originally made by CNO, for instance. A lot of the stars you see are massive bright ones that use CNO. So by day pretty much all the light we get is proton-proton light but in the night sky quite a lot isnt. Its made a different way.
 
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spelling out the CNO

It is not clear the CNO process needs to be
spelled out. You could figure out for yourself how it goes in broad outline form anyway---
you start with a standard Carbon-12 and stick protons onto it
until you have stuck four on.
Then they fall off as a Helium-4, and you have your C-12 back again.

In the meantime human words intervene, we call certain things nitrogen nuclei and certain things oxygen nuclei, because of
the role they play in our chemistry

But these are just what temporarily results from sticking protons onto a C-12-----they don't have time to participate in chemistry and the human names for them are not all that relevant in the present situation: namely the core of a massive star.

So here is how catalyzed fusion goes:

C-12 + p ---> N-13 + gamma
N-13 ---> C-13 + positron + neutrino
C-13 + p ---> N-14 + gamma
N-14 + p ---> O-15 + gamma
O-15 ---> N-15 + positron + neutrino
N-15 + p ---> C-12 + He-4
 
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What is "The quantum solar haiku"?

"The quantum solar haiku" is a poetic phrase that combines concepts from quantum mechanics and solar energy. It is not a specific scientific term or theory, but rather a creative expression of these two fields.

How does quantum mechanics relate to solar energy?

Quantum mechanics is the branch of physics that studies the behavior of matter and energy at a very small scale, such as atoms and subatomic particles. Solar energy, on the other hand, is the energy that comes from the sun and is harnessed through various technologies. Quantum mechanics plays a crucial role in understanding how solar energy is converted and used by solar cells.

What is a haiku?

A haiku is a traditional form of Japanese poetry that consists of three lines with a syllable pattern of 5-7-5. It typically conveys a simple yet profound message or observation about nature.

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