Negative or Positive Partial Derivative

In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of partial derivatives of n with respect to P and T. The formulas for the partial derivatives are provided and it is mentioned that if the partial derivative is positive, n should increase with an increase in the independent variable, and if it is negative, n should decrease. The speaker also expresses uncertainty about determining the sign of the partial derivatives. The listener suggests expressing the derivatives in terms of the positive combinations of ##(P+an^2)## and ##nkT## to determine the signs.
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Saptarshi Sarkar
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Homework Statement
A non-ideal gas is described by the VdW law

##(P+an^2)(1-nb) = nkT##

where a,b and k are positive constants, n is the density of particles, P the pressure, and T the temperature.
How will n change (increase or decrease) if we

1) Hold P and increase T
2) Hold T and increase P
Relevant Equations
##(P+an^2)(1-nb) = nkT##
My attempt

I calculated the partial derivatives of n wrt P and T. They are given below.

##\frac {\partial n}{\partial P} = \frac{nb -1}{\left(2an-Pb-3abn^2-kT\right )}##
##\frac {\partial n}{\partial T}= \frac {nk}{\left(2an-Pb-3abn^2-kT \right ) }##

I know that if the partial derivative is positive, n should increase with the increase in the independent variable and if the partial derivative is negative, n should decrease with the increase in the independent variable. But, I am not sure how to determine if the above partial derivatives are positive or negative.
 
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Both ##(P+an^2)## and ##nkT## are positive, so you know that ##(1-nb)## is positive. Try expressing your partial derivatives in terms of those combinations.
 
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vela said:
Both ##(P+an^2)## and ##nkT## are positive, so you know that ##(1-nb)## is positive. Try expressing your partial derivatives in terms of those combinations.

Thanks a lot!
 

Related to Negative or Positive Partial Derivative

1. What is a partial derivative?

A partial derivative is a mathematical concept used to measure the rate of change of a function with respect to one of its variables, while holding other variables constant. It is denoted by ∂ and is often used in multivariable calculus and physics.

2. What is the difference between a negative and positive partial derivative?

A negative partial derivative indicates that the function is decreasing in value as the variable increases, while a positive partial derivative indicates that the function is increasing in value as the variable increases. Essentially, a negative partial derivative represents a downward slope, while a positive partial derivative represents an upward slope.

3. How is a partial derivative calculated?

A partial derivative is calculated by taking the derivative of a function with respect to one of its variables, while treating all other variables as constants. This is done by following the standard rules of differentiation, such as the power rule, product rule, and chain rule.

4. What is the significance of a negative or positive partial derivative?

A negative or positive partial derivative can provide valuable information about the behavior of a function. For example, a negative partial derivative may indicate a maximum point on a graph, while a positive partial derivative may indicate a minimum point. Additionally, the sign of a partial derivative can also help determine the concavity of a function.

5. How is a partial derivative used in real-world applications?

Partial derivatives are used in various fields, including physics, economics, and engineering, to analyze and model complex systems with multiple variables. They are particularly useful in optimization problems, where the goal is to maximize or minimize a function. For example, in economics, partial derivatives can be used to determine the optimal production level for a company, given various factors such as cost and demand.

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