Motor Frictional Loss: Torque Required at Any Freq?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the torque required to overcome losses in electric motors. It is noted that most motors only have two bearings and other parts have minimal friction. However, the commutator in DC or AC synchronous motors may contribute to friction loss. It is also mentioned that the initial torque needed for operation decreases as the motor's speed increases due to back EMF and inertia. Additionally, the friction and windage drag in the bearings increase proportionally with the motor's speed.
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Is the same torque required at any freq in order to overcome these losses?
 
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you should tell more about what your talking exactly , well from the section you posted this I assume your talking about electric motors, which in most cases have only two bearings , all other parts ar non friction ones , except for the commutator in dc or AC synchronous motors, which for friction loss is extremely small.
Every motor needs to exert most torque at the beginning of operation , the higher the rotor goes in rpm the less force is needed to achieve even higher ones and overcome the same friction , because of back EMF and also because of inertia.
 
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As the speed of an electric motor rises the bearing friction will rise in proportion to the speed.
As the speed of an electric motor rises the windage drag will rise in proportion to the square of the speed.
 

Related to Motor Frictional Loss: Torque Required at Any Freq?

1. What is motor frictional loss?

Motor frictional loss refers to the energy lost due to the resistance of moving parts within a motor. This resistance causes a decrease in the efficiency of the motor, resulting in the need for more torque to maintain the desired speed.

2. How is motor frictional loss calculated?

Motor frictional loss is calculated by multiplying the frictional coefficient of the motor by the normal force and the distance traveled. This can also be expressed as the difference between the input and output power of the motor.

3. What factors affect motor frictional loss?

The main factors that affect motor frictional loss include the type and quality of lubrication used, the speed and load of the motor, and the materials and design of the motor's moving parts. Temperature and age of the motor can also impact frictional loss.

4. How does motor frictional loss impact motor performance?

Motor frictional loss can significantly affect the performance and efficiency of a motor. It increases the amount of torque required to operate the motor, which can lead to increased energy consumption and wear and tear on the motor's components. It can also cause overheating and decrease the lifespan of the motor.

5. How can motor frictional loss be reduced?

Motor frictional loss can be reduced by using high-quality lubricants, properly maintaining the motor, and choosing the right motor for the desired application. Regular cleaning and proper alignment of the motor's moving parts can also help to reduce frictional loss.

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