Minimum Force such that box m does not slide down

In summary, the conversation discusses an exercise involving a small box m and a larger box M, with a given acceleration of 2 m/s2. The attempt at a solution involves calculating the required acceleration for the two boxes to stick together with friction, resulting in an acceleration of 49.05 m/s2, which does not match the given acceleration. Assumptions may need to be made in order to reach a solution.
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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



F = ma; f = µN

The Attempt at a Solution


Let F' be the action-reaction force between box m and box M
f be the friction on small box m
For small box m:
F' = ma
f - mg = 0
µF' - mg = 0 since f = µF'
µma - mg = 0 since F' = ma
a = g / µ = 9.81 m/s2 / 0.2 = 49.05 m/s2
which is not equal to the given acceleration of 2.0 m/s2
Please help. Thanks



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  • #2
Hello p, welcome to PF :smile:

This is a most peculiar exercise. What you calculate is correct: an acceleration of no less than 5g is required to make m stick to M with so much friction that it doesn't slide down. I find the exercise wording/picture combination very unsatisfactory: It isn't clear at all where the given 2 m/s2 comes from, and -- as you so justly put it -- 2 m/s2 is not 5g at all.

If an answer is absolutely required to get to the next level or something like that, then perhaps it's allowed to make some assumptions: for example that the 2 m/s2 is already there (some jet engine inside M that we can't see) and that the horizontal component of F is supposed to provide the remaining a' = 47.05 m/s2 to the ensemble of (m + M) . You apply Fx = (m+M) a' and some trigonometry to go from Fx to |F|.

Good luck, and maybe you can let us know what came out ?
 
  • #3
Alright. Thanks! :)
 

Related to Minimum Force such that box m does not slide down

1. What is minimum force?

Minimum force refers to the smallest amount of force that is needed to achieve a desired result or prevent a specific action from occurring.

2. Why is it important to determine the minimum force for a box?

Determining the minimum force necessary to prevent a box from sliding down is important for ensuring the safety of the box's contents and preventing any potential damage or accidents. It also allows for more efficient use of energy and resources.

3. How can I calculate the minimum force for a box?

The minimum force for a box can be calculated by considering the weight of the box, the angle of the surface it is resting on, and the coefficient of friction between the box and the surface.

4. What factors can affect the minimum force needed for a box?

The minimum force needed for a box can be affected by the weight and shape of the box, the surface it is resting on, and the material of the box and the surface. Temperature, humidity, and other environmental conditions can also play a role.

5. Can the minimum force for a box change over time?

Yes, the minimum force for a box can change over time as the weight or contents of the box change, the surface it is resting on wears down, or external conditions change. It is important to regularly reassess the minimum force needed to ensure the safety and stability of the box.

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