Might A Hot Jupiter Require Another Gas Giant - 3-body Problem?

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of hot jupiters forming in tight orbits due to a 3-body or n-body process, potentially involving the ejection of smaller objects. The idea of using an infrared telescope to detect these gas giants is also mentioned, as well as the role of planet migration in the formation of hot jupiters. The conversation also considers the lack of a hot Jupiter in our own solar system despite having a large number of objects in the Ort cloud.
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How might hot jupiters arrrive close in, since gas sufficient for their formation would be seem to be further outward? It might seem to require a 3-body 'solution'. That is, must another gas giant have been in the mix for much earlier stages? Perhaps ejecting 1 giant, and retaining the other in a tight orbit? 3-body problems can result in chaotic motion. But still, through simulations, might one conjure up various possible scenarios of how 1 gas giant ends up in a tight orbit?

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That is an ingenious idea. But what makes you think that Jupiter is too close for a gas giant to form? Have you done any rough calculations?
 
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Another exoplanet detection approach: infrared telescope?

If tight orbital hot jupiters are the result of a 3-body or n-body process, in which some are ejected from system, and some migrate into large orbits; then perhaps a dedicated infrared telescope for finding the latter gas giants or brown dwarf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_dwarf" database with another viable detection modality?
 
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The planets probably migrated as a result of ejecting trillions of smaller objects, rather than 1 massive object.
 
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planet migration

tony873004 said:
The planets probably migrated as a result of ejecting trillions of smaller objects, rather than 1 massive object.

Our Ort cloud http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ort_cloud" has trillions of objects, although the total mass is not that high; perhaps 3 Earth masses; although the ejected material (from our gas giant interaction) might have been much more (50-100 Earth masses) Yet we don't have a tight orbital hot Jupiter in our system.
 
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Related to Might A Hot Jupiter Require Another Gas Giant - 3-body Problem?

1. What is a Hot Jupiter?

A Hot Jupiter is a type of exoplanet (a planet outside of our solar system) that is similar in size to Jupiter but orbits extremely close to its host star, resulting in high temperatures. They are often referred to as "roaster" planets due to their scorching surface temperatures.

2. Why might a Hot Jupiter require another gas giant in its system?

The presence of another gas giant in the system can help stabilize the orbit of the Hot Jupiter. Without this gravitational influence, the Hot Jupiter may be more susceptible to being pulled closer to its host star or even being ejected from the system entirely.

3. What is the 3-body problem?

The 3-body problem refers to the mathematical challenge of predicting the motion of three celestial bodies (such as a Hot Jupiter, its host star, and another gas giant) based on their gravitational interactions. It is a complex problem that has been studied by scientists for centuries.

4. How does the 3-body problem relate to the study of Hot Jupiters?

The 3-body problem is relevant to the study of Hot Jupiters because the presence of another gas giant in the system can create a 3-body scenario where the Hot Jupiter's orbit is affected by the gravitational pull of both the host star and the other gas giant.

5. What are the implications of a Hot Jupiter requiring another gas giant in its system?

The presence of another gas giant in a Hot Jupiter's system can impact its formation, evolution, and overall stability. It can also affect the habitability of any potentially Earth-like planets in the system, as the gravitational interactions between the gas giants may disrupt the orbits of smaller, rocky planets.

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