Mechanical Steel vs. Magnetic Levitation Composite Flywheels?

In summary, the conversation discusses the difference in energy storage between an ideal composite flywheel and an ideal ball bearing steel alloy flywheel of the same size and shape. The use of a magnetic levitation support mechanism for the composite flywheel allows it to store approximately 8 times more energy per unit mass compared to the steel flywheel. This is due to the composite's ability to withstand higher rotational velocities. The specific strength of the composite is also directly proportional to its maximum speed and energy density.
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Spinning at their respective maximum velocities, approximately how much more energy will an ideal composite flywheel (magnetically levitated in a vaccum) be able to store than an ideal ball bearing steel alloy flywheel of the same size and shape? Thanks.
 
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Anybody? ..
 
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Isn't it purely dependent upon the rotating mass (and distribution thereof) as opposed to what material is used?
 
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I think he's asking about the difference that the support mechanism makes -- maglev versus bearings with physical contact. It seems like the maglev approach will still burn energy, because it will likely take some active feedback to keep the flywheel balanced while it spins, especially at high velocities. To the OP -- were you thinking of some passive maglev scheme to try to minimize the extra energy needed? Is passive maglev going to be sufficient? Do you have examples of maglev flywheels that you can point us to for reference?
 
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I see. I thought that the phrase 'ball bearing steel alloy flywheel' meant that the wheel was made out of bearing metal, not that it was supported by ball bearings.
 
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BasketDaN said:
Spinning at their respective maximum velocities, approximately how much more energy will an ideal composite flywheel (magnetically levitated in a vaccum) be able to store than an ideal ball bearing steel alloy flywheel of the same size and shape? Thanks.

Looks to be about 8x more energy / unit mass for composites from the figures at

http://www.aspes.ch/faq.html#Why%20composite%20materials

(CFRP, some sort of carbon fiber composite, I guess, having the highest rating).
 
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The difference only exists because composite flywheels are able to withstand far greater rotational velocities than are steel flywheel.s

Yeah, I found that site too,, do you think the specific strength is directly proportional to the maximum speed it can withstand?
 
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Nope, velocity goes as the square-root of the specific strength, energy density goes directly as the specific strength.
 

Related to Mechanical Steel vs. Magnetic Levitation Composite Flywheels?

1. What is the difference between mechanical steel and magnetic levitation composite flywheels?

Mechanical steel flywheels use traditional mechanical components such as bearings and gears to store and release energy, while magnetic levitation composite flywheels use magnetic bearings and a composite material to achieve levitation and energy storage without any physical contact.

2. Which type of flywheel is more energy-efficient?

Magnetic levitation composite flywheels are generally more energy-efficient because they have less friction and therefore lose less energy to heat and other forms of energy loss.

3. Are there any safety concerns with using magnetic levitation composite flywheels?

There are potential safety concerns with using magnetic levitation composite flywheels, as the high-speed rotation and magnetic fields involved can be dangerous if not properly contained and controlled. However, proper safety measures can be implemented to mitigate these risks.

4. How do these flywheel technologies compare in terms of cost?

Mechanical steel flywheels are generally more cost-effective in terms of upfront costs, as the technology is more mature and the materials used are more readily available. However, magnetic levitation composite flywheels may offer long-term cost savings due to their energy efficiency and potential for longer lifespans.

5. What are the potential applications for magnetic levitation composite flywheels?

Magnetic levitation composite flywheels have potential applications in various industries such as renewable energy, transportation, and aerospace. They can be used for energy storage, regenerative braking, and as a replacement for traditional batteries in electric vehicles and spacecraft.

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