Maxwell eqs: 8 eqs for 6 unknowns - too many eqs?

In summary, the conversation discusses the Maxwell equations, which consist of 8 equations that are first order with respect to space and time derivatives. These equations are easier to understand in their covariant form, and they may contain a hidden redundancy due to gauge freedom. The current has four components, leaving two degrees of freedom to arbitrarily set. This relates to the fact that the charge density can be determined for all x and t once the current and initial value of charge density are set.
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pellman
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I know I really need to understand partial diff eqs better for this, but I don't know what subtopic to look for in a pde text.

Maxwell eqs are 2 scalar eqs plus 2 vector eqs (3 components) giving eight total equations, coupled in the 6 components of E(x) and B(x). Why not just 6 equations?

This is easier to see in the covariant form

[tex]\partial_{\mu}F^{\mu\nu}=j^\nu[/tex] , [tex]\nu=0,1,2,3[/tex]
[tex]\epsilon^{\alpha\beta\gamma\delta}\partial_\gamma F_{\alpha\beta} =0[/tex] , [tex]\delta=0,1,2,3[/tex]

F is a 4x4 anti-symmetric tensor, so it is made of six independent functions.

The equations are first order with respect to space and time derivatives. Contrast for example the Dirac equation which is also first order in space and time derivatives but is really only 4 equations for 4 unknown functions.

Do the Maxwell equations contain a hidden redundancy?
 
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Nabeshin said:

Thanks. But how does this relate? Doesn't gauge freedom only have to do with the vector potential? I am concerned that the equations in terms of the fields E and B (which have no gauge freedom, correct?) seem more than necessary.
 
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The current has four components, so you have 10 quantities and 8 equations, so 2 degrees of freedom remain.
 
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Thanks.

I was thinking that the since the current must satisfy the continuity equation, we cannot arbitrarily set all four components of j. Once we set [tex]\vec{J}(\vec{x},t)[/tex] (and the initial value of [tex]\rho[/tex]), then the charge density [tex]\rho(\vec{x},t)[/tex] is determined for all x and t.

But if we only have two degrees of freedom does that mean we are only free to arbitrarily set two components of [tex]j^\mu[/tex]?
 
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Related to Maxwell eqs: 8 eqs for 6 unknowns - too many eqs?

1. What are Maxwell's equations?

Maxwell's equations are a set of four partial differential equations that describe the behavior of electric and magnetic fields. They were first formulated by James Clerk Maxwell in the 19th century and are the cornerstone of classical electromagnetism.

2. How many Maxwell's equations are there?

There are a total of eight Maxwell's equations, which can be broken down into four equations for electric fields and four equations for magnetic fields. These equations are used to describe the fundamental principles of electromagnetism.

3. Why are there 8 equations for only 6 unknowns?

The 8 Maxwell's equations are not all independent, meaning that some equations can be derived from others. This is why there are more equations than unknowns. Additionally, the equations are often written in different forms for different applications, which can also contribute to the seeming discrepancy in the number of equations.

4. How are the Maxwell's equations used in science?

The Maxwell's equations are used in a wide range of scientific fields, including electromagnetism, optics, and telecommunications. They are essential for understanding the behavior of electric and magnetic fields and are used to design and analyze a variety of devices, such as motors, generators, and antennas.

5. Are the Maxwell's equations still relevant today?

Yes, the Maxwell's equations are still widely used and considered to be one of the most important contributions to physics. They are used in various fields of science and engineering and have been validated by numerous experiments and observations. However, they have been modified and expanded upon in recent years to incorporate new discoveries, such as the theory of relativity and quantum mechanics.

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