Max Area of Simple Quadrilateral w/ Sides $a$ & $b$: Justification

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In summary, the largest possible area of a simple quadrilateral with two sides of length $a$ and two sides of length $b$ is when the quadrilateral is a rectangle with sides $a$ and $b$, or a kite-shaped figure with two opposite right angles. This is true for any convex polygon, and it can be proven that the area is largest when the polygon is cyclic.
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What is the largest possible area of a simple quadrilateral, two sides of which
have length $a$ and two sides of which have length $b$? Please justify your statement.
 
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lfdahl said:
What is the largest possible area of a simple quadrilateral, two sides of which
have length $a$ and two sides of which have length $b$? Please justify your statement.
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The area of polygon with given sides is obviously largest when the polygon is convex.

Given a convex quadrilateral $ABCD$, we can interchange the length of two consecutive sides without changing the area. Indeed, we can flip the triangle $ABC$ with respect to the perpendicular bisector of $AC$ to get a quadrilateral $AB'CD$ with the same area and perimeter. As transpositions generate the whole symmetric group $S_4$, we may permute the lengths of the sides in any way without changing the solution. Note that this is true for any convex polygon.

In this case, we may therefore assume that equal sides are not adjacent; the quadrilateral is therefore a parallelogram with sides $a$ and $b$. The area will be maximum and equal to $ab$ when that parallelogram is a rectangle.

The original quadrilateral will be either a rectangle or a kite-shaped figure with two opposite right angles (a right triangle and its mirror image with respect to the hypotenuse).

Note: it can be shown that, for a quadrilateral with any given sides, the area is largest when the quadrilateral is cyclic; and that too can be generalized to any polygon. See here for a proof.
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castor28 said:
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The area of polygon with given sides is obviously largest when the polygon is convex.

Given a convex quadrilateral $ABCD$, we can interchange the length of two consecutive sides without changing the area. Indeed, we can flip the triangle $ABC$ with respect to the perpendicular bisector of $AC$ to get a quadrilateral $AB'CD$ with the same area and perimeter. As transpositions generate the whole symmetric group $S_4$, we may permute the lengths of the sides in any way without changing the solution. Note that this is true for any convex polygon.

In this case, we may therefore assume that equal sides are not adjacent; the quadrilateral is therefore a parallelogram with sides $a$ and $b$. The area will be maximum and equal to $ab$ when that parallelogram is a rectangle.

The original quadrilateral will be either a rectangle or a kite-shaped figure with two opposite right angles (a right triangle and its mirror image with respect to the hypotenuse).

Note: it can be shown that, for a quadrilateral with any given sides, the area is largest when the quadrilateral is cyclic; and that too can be generalized to any polygon. See here for a proof.
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You are of course right, castor28! Thankyou very much for your participation and for a very "beyond the challenge" instructive answer.(Nod)
 
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we can chose the vertices ABCD of the quadrilateal so that (AB= a, BC= b) and then based on the sides(AD=a, CD= b) or (AD=b, CD =a).

so the 2 triangles ABC and ADC/ ACD(depending on the case above) are congruent. hence area same

area of the triangle ABC (AB and BC fixed) is maximum when angle B is $90^\circ$ and it is right angled triangle.

so is angle D.

So ABCD is cyclic quadrilateral and area is ab.
 
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kaliprasad said:
we can chose the vertices ABCD of the quadrilateal so that (AB= a, BC= b) and then based on the sides(AD=a, CD= b) or (AD=b, CD =a).

so the 2 triangles ABC and ADC/ ACD(depending on the case above) are congruent. hence area same

area of the triangle ABC (AB and BC fixed) is maximum when angle B is $90^\circ$ and it is right angled triangle.

so is angle D.

So ABCD is cyclic quadrilateral and area is ab.

Yes, you are of course right, kaliprasad!
Thankyou for your participation.
 

Related to Max Area of Simple Quadrilateral w/ Sides $a$ & $b$: Justification

What is the definition of a simple quadrilateral?

A simple quadrilateral is a four-sided polygon with straight sides and angles that do not intersect.

What is the formula for finding the maximum area of a simple quadrilateral with sides $a$ and $b$?

The formula for finding the maximum area of a simple quadrilateral with sides $a$ and $b$ is $A = \frac{1}{2}ab\sin\theta$, where $\theta$ is the angle between the two sides.

Why is the maximum area of a simple quadrilateral with sides $a$ and $b$ calculated using this formula?

The maximum area of a simple quadrilateral is calculated using this formula because it takes into account the angle between the two sides, which can greatly affect the area of the quadrilateral. This formula also considers the lengths of the two sides, making it a comprehensive calculation for finding the maximum area.

Is there a limit to the maximum area of a simple quadrilateral with sides $a$ and $b$?

Yes, there is a limit to the maximum area of a simple quadrilateral with sides $a$ and $b$. The maximum area is dependent on the lengths of the two sides and the angle between them. The maximum area will occur when the angle between the two sides is 90 degrees, creating a right angle.

Can the maximum area of a simple quadrilateral be achieved with any values for sides $a$ and $b$?

No, the maximum area of a simple quadrilateral cannot be achieved with any values for sides $a$ and $b$. The values must follow the rule that the angle between the two sides is 90 degrees, and the formula for finding the maximum area must be used to calculate the actual maximum area.

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