LQG, string theory and spinors - all achieve mathematical miracles

In summary, LQG, string theory, and Penrose's spinor theory (or twistor theory) all attempt to go beyond the Standard Model and achieve mathematical miracles. However, only string theory claims to make these miracles, while the others claim to actually understand their theories. These theories are not mutually exclusive, but rather different, similar to the different varieties of string theory being combined under "M" theory. Physics has experiments to test what is real and what is not, as many mathematical theories do not apply to our universe. Penrose may have worked on spinor theory, but his major effort has been on twistor theory.
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LQG, strink theory and Penrose's spinor theory, or maybe it's twistor theory, I don't know, all I know is that all three theories achieve mathematical miracles in their attempts to go beyond the Standard Model - how can all three theories do this but be mutually exclusive at the same time. Or maybe they're not mutually exclusive. Are they?
 
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g.lemaitre said:
LQG, strink theory and Penrose's spinor theory, or maybe it's twistor theory, I don't know, all I know is that all three theories achieve mathematical miracles in their attempts to go beyond the Standard Model - how can all three theories do this but be mutually exclusive at the same time. Or maybe they're not mutually exclusive. Are they?
Actually, only string theorists claim that their theories make mathematical miracles.
All the others claim that they actually understand how their theories work. :wink:
 
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maybe i'll get some actual quotes
 
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LQG, strink theory and Penrose's spinor theory...

not really mutually exclusive, but different...like the varieties of string theory trying to be combined under "M" theory...or quantum theory versus relativity...Not only are there lots of different mathematical theories, many of them don't apply at all to our universe...that's why physics has experiments to test what's 'real' and what is not.

Maybe Penrose DID work SPINOR theory, but I suspect you mean TWISTOR theory, a major effort of his for a long time...

You can read some about twistor string theory here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twistor_theory
 

Related to LQG, string theory and spinors - all achieve mathematical miracles

1. What is LQG (Loop Quantum Gravity)?

Loop Quantum Gravity (LQG) is a theoretical framework that attempts to unify the theories of general relativity and quantum mechanics. It proposes that space and time are quantized, meaning they are made up of discrete, indivisible units. This theory also suggests that gravity is not a fundamental force, but rather an emergent phenomenon from the interactions of elementary particles.

2. What is string theory?

String theory is a theoretical framework that attempts to explain the fundamental nature of particles and their interactions. It proposes that the building blocks of the universe are not point-like particles, but rather tiny, vibrating strings. These strings have different modes of vibration, which give rise to the different particles and forces in the universe.

3. How do LQG and string theory achieve mathematical miracles?

Both LQG and string theory have the potential to solve some of the biggest mysteries in physics, such as the unification of gravity and quantum mechanics, and the existence of multiple dimensions. They also provide a mathematical framework that can help explain the behavior of particles at the smallest scales, where classical physics breaks down.

4. What are spinors?

Spinors are mathematical objects that represent the intrinsic angular momentum of particles. They are a fundamental part of quantum mechanics and are used to describe the behavior of particles with half-integer spin, such as electrons and quarks. Spinors are also important in theories such as LQG and string theory, where they play a crucial role in describing the properties of particles and their interactions.

5. How are LQG, string theory, and spinors related?

LQG and string theory both incorporate the use of spinors in their mathematical frameworks. String theory uses spinors to describe the properties of the fundamental strings, while LQG uses spinors to describe the geometry of space and time. Additionally, both theories attempt to unify the four fundamental forces of nature (gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak nuclear forces) by incorporating spinors into their mathematical models.

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