Law of Conservation of Energy- mass and spring

In summary, the problem involves a 2300g mass sliding down a frictionless 26 degree incline and compressing an unstressed spring of force constant 19N/cm. The mass slides an additional 17cm before the external force is removed and the spring pushes it upwards. The goal is to find the initial separation between the mass and spring. Through calculations involving gravitational potential energy, elastic potential energy, and work done, the initial separation is determined to be 1.048 meters.
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A 2300g mass starts from rest and slides a distance L down a frictionless 26 degree incline, where it contacts an unstressed 34cm long spring of negligible mass as shown in the figure. The mass slides an additional 17cm as it is brought momentarily to rest by compressing the spring of force constant 19N/cm. The acceleration of gravity is 9.8m/s^2. Note: The spring lies along the surface of the ramp. Assume the ramp is frictionless. Now, the external force is rapidly removed so that the compressed spring can push up the mass. Find the initial separation L between mass and spring. Answer in units of m.

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I was wondering if someone could check to see if the way I am approaching this problem is correct.

There are three energies: Gravitational PE, Elastic PE and Kinetic Energy. When you set them equal to each other:
(1/2)mv^2 + mgy + (1/2)kx^2= (1/2)mv2^2 + mgy2+ (1/2)kx^2
if the left side of the equation is before the object slides down the ramp and the right side of the equation is after the spring is compressed, then it simplifies to:
mgy= mgy2 + (1/2)kx^2 because there is no KE or EPE at the beginning and at the end, there is no KE (gets converted to PE and EPE)
So, inputting -Y for the amount the spring is compressed and h for the height of the ramp:
mgh= -mgY + (1/2)kY^2
(-mgY+ (1/2)kY^2)/mg
Plugging in the numbers:
(-2.3 * 9.8 * .17m + .5 * 1900 N/m * .17^2)/ 2.3 * 9.8
I get h to equal 1.048056708m
Going back to the equation Work Done= Fcosthetad which is equal to mgy, then shouldn't the distance d be equal to h/costheta?
 
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Hi Maiia! :smile:
Maiia said:
A 2300g mass starts from rest and slides a distance L down a frictionless 26 degree incline, where it contacts an unstressed 34cm long spring of negligible mass as shown in the figure. The mass slides an additional 17cm as it is brought momentarily to rest by compressing the spring of force constant 19N/cm. The acceleration of gravity is 9.8m/s^2. Note: The spring lies along the surface of the ramp. Assume the ramp is frictionless. Now, the external force is rapidly removed so that the compressed spring can push up the mass. Find the initial separation L between mass and spring. Answer in units of m.

mgh= -mgY + (1/2)kY^2
(-mgY+ (1/2)kY^2)/mg
Plugging in the numbers:
(-2.3 * 9.8 * .17m + .5 * 1900 N/m * .17^2)/ 2.3 * 9.8

You were doing fine :smile: until just before these lines …

i] it isn't mgY, because you need the vertical distance

ii] this is a quadratic equation :rolleyes:
 
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oh i see.. thanks! :)
 

Related to Law of Conservation of Energy- mass and spring

1. What is the Law of Conservation of Energy?

The Law of Conservation of Energy states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, but can only be transferred or transformed from one form to another.

2. How does the Law of Conservation of Energy apply to a mass and spring system?

In a mass and spring system, the potential energy stored in the spring is converted into kinetic energy as the mass oscillates back and forth. The total energy of the system, which is the sum of the potential and kinetic energy, remains constant.

3. Can the Law of Conservation of Energy be violated?

No, the Law of Conservation of Energy is a fundamental law of physics and has been extensively tested and proven to hold true in all known cases. If it appears to be violated, it is likely due to errors in measurement or incomplete understanding of the system.

4. What factors can affect the conservation of energy in a mass and spring system?

The only external factor that can affect the conservation of energy in a mass and spring system is the presence of friction, which can dissipate some of the system's energy. However, in an ideal system with no friction, the conservation of energy remains constant.

5. How is the Law of Conservation of Energy related to other laws of physics?

The Law of Conservation of Energy is closely related to the First Law of Thermodynamics, which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transformed. It is also related to the principle of conservation of momentum, which states that the total momentum of a system remains constant unless acted upon by an external force.

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