Laser fusion and science fiction

In summary, the conversation discussed the use of catalysts in nuclear fusion, specifically gold nanoparticles in laser fusion. It was determined that gold-deuterium fusion is difficult to achieve due to the high coulomb barrier of the gold nucleus, and there is currently no way to catalyze fusion reactions. However, the fast ignition method in laser fusion uses a small gold cone to trigger the fusion reaction with less effort, but this is not considered true catalysis. The conversation also mentioned alternative methods of fusion triggering, such as proton beams and explosion-driven argon lasers. It was also noted that muon catalyzed fusion is a potential method, but it has not yet been achieved at a practical level.
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mohd_adam
I'm a science fiction writer, currently I write a novel related to laser fusion. As I know in chemistry, catalysis is the process in which the rate of a chemical reaction is either increased or decreased by means of a chemical substance known as a catalyst.

Are there catalysts in the nuclear fusion? ( for example gold nanoparticles )
In the laser fusion, D-T fuse at 100 million degrees C.

Could D-T with gold nanoparticles fuse at less than 100 million degrees C ?

Thanks
 
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Gold-deuterium fusion would be endothermic, and besides very difficult to achieve due to the high coulomb barrier of the gold nucleus (more protons).

Before they redid their page, ITER had a nice graph of fusion fuels' reactivity versus temperature, and it had "catalyzed D-D" as one of the fuels, but I do not know how one can "catalyze" ANY fusion (well, they call one method "muon catalyzed fusion" but that's currently unobtainium).

If talking about laser fusion, there is a method to reduce the laser energy use. HiPER uses fast ignition, which means that the fuel pellet is first compressed with lasers, normally, but it contains a small gold cone which allows another laser to fire to the center of the pellet, triggering the fusion reaction with less effort than just compression. That involves gold and "catalyzes" the fusion, so that might be something you're looking for.

Edit: so, if you want to maintain scientific accuracy in your writing, don't call the fast ignition method catalysis, because it is not catalysis by definition.
 
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Nyme , first i thank you very much for your help.
about the small gold cone used in the fast ignition i want to know what will happen to that cold ?
 
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No problem.

I'm assuming you meant "what will happen to that cone" instead of what will happen when it's cold...

Well, didn't read this from anywhere, but it will most certainly be vaporized, of course depending on the amount of fusion fuel burned. But at any commercial-scale reactor with pellet fusion energies reaching multiple gigajoules, it will be vaporized.

And no, I don't know how they recycle that gold.

By the way, if you need more information on the aspect, have a look at their website at
http://www.hiper-laser.org/index.asp

Edit: a clarification
 
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I already read the information in that website , but they didn't write anything about 'what will happen to the gold cone..
thanks
 
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mohd_adam said:
I'm a science fiction writer, currently I write a novel related to laser fusion. As I know in chemistry, catalysis is the process in which the rate of a chemical reaction is either increased or decreased by means of a chemical substance known as a catalyst.

Are there catalysts in the nuclear fusion? ( for example gold nanoparticles )
In the laser fusion, D-T fuse at 100 million degrees C.

Could D-T with gold nanoparticles fuse at less than 100 million degrees C ?

Thanks

Hi

You should check out Friedwardt Winterberg's work on pulsed fusion. He thinks the current laser fusion approach is unworkable because the flash-back destroys the optics when the lasers are powerful enough to trigger fusion. His current fusion triggering designs use proton beams or one-shot explosion-driven argon lasers. The proton-beam system would be for a fixed power-plant, but the one-shot lasers are for a pulse-driven rocket.
 
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mohd_adam said:
I'm a science fiction writer, currently I write a novel related to laser fusion. As I know in chemistry, catalysis is the process in which the rate of a chemical reaction is either increased or decreased by means of a chemical substance known as a catalyst.

Are there catalysts in the nuclear fusion? ( for example gold nanoparticles )
In the laser fusion, D-T fuse at 100 million degrees C.

Could D-T with gold nanoparticles fuse at less than 100 million degrees C ?

Thanks
In brief, no, and Nyme explained why.

In laser fusion, the objective is to heat the surface of a DT capsule, which is at cryogenic (solid hydrogen) temperatures. The laser light light heats an external layer which ablates. The ablation then cause the fuel capsule/target to impode or compress very rapidly. The rapid compression heats the fuel and increases the density to the conditions necessary for fusion.

Here is some information on the target capsules used in a proposed inertial confinement scheme.

https://lasers.llnl.gov/programs/nic/target_fabrication.php
https://lasers.llnl.gov/programs/nic/target_physics.php
https://lasers.llnl.gov/programs/nic/icf/how_icf_works.php
 
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Nyme said:
Gold-deuterium fusion would be endothermic, and besides very difficult to achieve due to the high coulomb barrier of the gold nucleus (more protons).

Before they redid their page, ITER had a nice graph of fusion fuels' reactivity versus temperature, and it had "catalyzed D-D" as one of the fuels, but I do not know how one can "catalyze" ANY fusion (well, they call one method "muon catalyzed fusion" but that's currently unobtainium).
(Muon catalyzed fusion is very obtainium, has been for decades, just not practium)
 
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mheslep said:
(Muon catalyzed fusion is very obtainium, has been for decades, just not practium)

The chief problem is getting the muons to remain in combination for long enough to fuse, but not too long, else they decay before they can catalyse more reactions. I think the current record is about 100 fusions catalysed per muon which falls short of breakeven. A more efficient muon-generator might mean that's enough, but most researchers think they've hit the limits of the practical. But not everyone agrees, so maybe one day...
 

Related to Laser fusion and science fiction

What is laser fusion and how does it work?

Laser fusion is a type of nuclear fusion that uses powerful laser beams to heat and compress hydrogen fuel to extreme temperatures and pressures. This triggers a chain reaction that causes the hydrogen atoms to fuse together, releasing large amounts of energy in the process.

Is laser fusion technology currently used in science fiction?

Yes, laser fusion has been a popular topic in science fiction for decades. It has been featured in various forms, such as a source of energy for futuristic weapons or a means of powering advanced spaceships.

What are the potential real-world applications of laser fusion?

Laser fusion has the potential to provide a virtually limitless source of clean and sustainable energy. It could also be used in the production of medical isotopes, space propulsion, and materials testing.

What are the challenges and limitations of laser fusion?

One of the main challenges of laser fusion is achieving a state of self-sustaining fusion, also known as ignition. This requires precise control and optimization of the laser beams and fuel targets. Additionally, the technology is still in its early stages and requires significant investment and research before it can be considered a viable energy source.

How does laser fusion compare to other forms of nuclear energy?

Laser fusion has the potential to be much safer and cleaner than traditional forms of nuclear energy, such as fission. It produces minimal radioactive waste and does not require the use of highly enriched uranium. However, it also faces technical and economic challenges that need to be addressed before it can be considered a practical alternative to other forms of energy.

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