Lack of quantum fluctuations rules out holographic principle ?

In summary, the recent searching of the light from the quasars indicates that the quantum fluctuation of the spacetime does not exist. This suggests that the discreteness of the spacetime is not necessary. The Casimir effect and gravitational redshift cannot be explained without a discrete spacetime.
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czes
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Recent searching of the light from the quasars indicate lack of the quantum fluctuation of the spacetime.
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1108/1108.6005v1.pdf
Does it mean the lack of quantum foam rules out the discretness of the spacetime too ?
How to explain Casimir effect and gravitational redshift then ?
Are there two notions of the vacuum in the science :
1. Energetic, material vacuum full of fluctuating virtual particles ?
2. Mathematical vacuum made of the relation between encoded information ?

The conservation of the quantum state at long distance according to the above article indicate the conservation of the quantum information and quantum superposition.
The mathematical holographic universe is made of the quantum information relations which are not necessarilly the vacuum fluctuations. The holographic universe is created due to conservation of the quantum information first of all.
How the change of the polarization of the light is possible if there is a quantum superposition and conservation of the information ?
 
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czes said:
How to explain Casimir effect and gravitational redshift then ?
The Casimir effect is a result of the imposition of nontrivial topological constraints on the quantum vacuum. There is no requirement of spacetime discretization. Why do you suggest that the gravitational redshift is also dependent upon a discrete spacetime?
 
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A discrete space is a particularly simple example of a topological space in which the points are "isolated" from each other in a certain sense. This isolation doesn't mean there is something between these points but it means that one point of that space has its peculiar property different from the neighbour.
Therefore a photon may behave as a wave and change its wavelength in a different gravity.
How the idiscrete space can create a background for different wavelengths of the photon ?

Einstein wrote in 1954:
In any case, it seems to me that the alternative continuum-discontinuum is a genuine alternative; i.e. there is no compromise here. In [a discontinuum] theory there cannot be space and time, only numbers[...]. It will be especially difficult to elicit something like a spatio-temporal quasi-order from such a schema. I can not picture to myself how the axiomatic framework of such a physics could look[...]. But I hold it as altogether possible that developments will lead there[...]."
(Einstein here calls "discontinuum" what Riemann calls "discrete manifold".)
 

Related to Lack of quantum fluctuations rules out holographic principle ?

What is the holographic principle?

The holographic principle is a theory in physics that suggests that the information describing a volume of space can be encoded on a lower-dimensional surface surrounding that space. This principle was proposed by physicist Leonard Susskind in the late 1990s.

What are quantum fluctuations?

Quantum fluctuations are random and unpredictable changes in the energy of a system at the quantum level. They are a fundamental aspect of quantum mechanics and are responsible for many phenomena such as the uncertainty principle and the creation and annihilation of particles in vacuum.

How does the lack of quantum fluctuations rule out the holographic principle?

The holographic principle relies on the idea that the information describing a volume of space can be encoded on a lower-dimensional surface. However, if there were no quantum fluctuations, this information would be constant and could not be encoded or changed. This contradicts the principles of the holographic principle, which requires that information can be encoded and decoded.

Has the lack of quantum fluctuations been proven?

There is currently no conclusive evidence that suggests that quantum fluctuations do not exist. However, some theoretical models, such as loop quantum gravity, suggest that at the smallest scales of space, quantum fluctuations may not exist. These models are still being studied and are not yet widely accepted in the scientific community.

What are the implications of ruling out the holographic principle?

If the holographic principle were to be ruled out due to the lack of quantum fluctuations, it would have a significant impact on our understanding of the fundamental laws of physics. It would suggest that the information in a volume of space cannot be encoded on a lower-dimensional surface, and would require a rethinking of many theories and models in physics that rely on the holographic principle.

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