Is there a contradiction in Ampere's force and motion?

In summary, the conversation revolves around Ampere's force attraction between two parallel currents and the concept of relative motion. The speaker is confused about how the ampere force and charge repulsion interact when particles are moving in a vacuum, and whether or not this constitutes a current. They also bring up the Biot-Savart law and its applicability in different scenarios, as well as the role of relativity in understanding electromagnetic fields. Ultimately, they are seeking clarification on these concepts.
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Artlav
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I've been thinking about Ampere's force attraction between two parallel currents, and one case got me confused.

Imagine two streams of similarly charged particles traveling alongside in a vaccuum, which is by definition an electric current. For the small time they would flow along until repelled, there should be two forces acting on them - repulsion from charge and attraction from ampere force, right?

Now, if the observer is to move along the current, so as to make the particles stand still relative to him, he should measure no ampere force, and thus they would have to repel faster than in first case.

There we get a contradiction.

What have i missed?
-Does a moving charge in a vacuum constitute a current?
-Does Biot–Savart law only work if there is a wire of some sort, and no magnetic field created otherwise?
-Something about relativity?
-Something else entirely?
 
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Artlav said:
-Something about relativity?

Bingo! :biggrin:

The components of the electric and magnetic fields are also components of the electromagnetic field tensor. When you switch from one inertial reference frame to another, this tensor transforms under the Lorentz transformation in such a way that the net physically measureable effect is the same in both frames, after taking into account length contraction, time dilation, etc.
 

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What is Ampere force and motion?

Ampere force and motion refers to the force and motion of charged particles in an electric current, as described by Ampere's law.

What is Ampere's law?

Ampere's law is a fundamental law of electromagnetism that describes the relationship between an electric current and the magnetic field it produces. It states that the magnetic field around a current-carrying wire is proportional to the current and the distance from the wire.

How is Ampere's law used in practical applications?

Ampere's law is used in many practical applications, such as in the design of electric motors and generators, as well as in the development of electronic devices like computers and televisions. It is also used in the study of natural phenomena, such as the Earth's magnetic field and the behavior of charged particles in space.

What is the relationship between Ampere force and motion?

Ampere force and motion are closely related, as Ampere's law describes how an electric current produces a magnetic field, which in turn can exert a force on other charged particles. This force can then cause motion in those particles.

How is Ampere force and motion related to other fundamental forces?

Ampere force and motion are related to other fundamental forces, such as the electric force and the gravitational force. These forces all interact with each other to shape the behavior of matter and energy in our universe, and understanding their relationships is essential for understanding the workings of our world.

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